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Excellent news. Can't wait for my next addition to my Fetch kit! 😀

is this just run kit or the cycling tops too?

Just the advertised kit. I am in talks with RHS about the cycling top.

The lead time on this kit is a fraction of our club kit supplier Fetch - no patience needed (and I'm going to contact RHS for our next batch of club kit to see what they can do for us!)

You so should LD - speak to Andrew or Kelly, and do please name drop me

That’s excellent news.

who doesn't love a new fetch top

I'm interested and I don't mind what the material is.

Not too fussed about the material but put my pin in somewhere

Full zip, the rest is optional.

I'm with Velociraptor ^^

Full zip, I have gone for same material but would order either.

Also interested, but not fussed about fabric.
Full zip and decent pockets are the main thing for me.

full zip please - and a ladies cut if possible. Is it going to be the rainbow one ?

Oh, yes, 3 pockets please.

Not too bothered about the zip on the front but a zip on one of the pockets would be good.

Please pass on our condolences to the company too Fetch. I know this wasn't the topic of your blog, but I think Ronhill is a very family oriented company, so they must all be feeling it. Cheers, G

Echo what Happy said

Yes - Full zip please - Happy to go with whatever folk prefer re: fabric

Full zip and decent pockets please - will gonwith the flow material

Zip and pockets please. Fabric? As long as it is soft and *not* wool then I'd be happy. Rainbow would be good too . Me? Fussy?

only extra comment no to a black body as you want to be visible!

Did RHS get back to you about the feasibility of this?

Not yet. Will blog when there’s news.

Can I ask what the measurement is please on the women's v neck tshirt from the bottom of the v to the bottom of the hem? (on a size 10 or 12) Thank you!

There are some measurements underneath the order form. The cut and shape will be the same as any kit bought in the last couple of years.

I LOVE THESE!

i dont need a shirt.....i need to resist....
However the dog ate my buff I really really need a buff

Vest ordered and money sent. Thanks Fetch.

Oh and +1 for another Fetch Buff.

Oh, go on then

I don’t have to be in the club to order a shirt do I?

Can I ask if there is any chance of a cycling top one?

The will look great with my Flanci bottoms

@mandymoo - maybe, let me see what I can find out from RHS tomorrow.
@limegreenjelly - anyone can buy them

I love these! I don’t need one, but ...

I think I am overdue a vest. Another week till payday though.

Ordered and will pay tomorrow.

I do not need another running top. I have too many running tops already. I DO NOT NEED ANOTHER RUNNING TOP.

All ordered, looking forward to my new running top

Done

These are lovely!

A bit like GordonG... These things are too good to resist.

They’re almost too pretty to be fetch tops, we are used to more garish attire

Yes yes yes yes yes! These look amazing. For anyone wondering “but what will I wear with it?” Come join us on the “I’ve got unicorns in my basket” funky kit appreciation forum thread :D

Done 🌈

I told Liebling about these. Did she want one...? She nearly had me arm off. Yep, I'd better get on that order page.

Right. I've sent you two orders - one lady top, one man vest - but combined em into one payment - hope that's alright...

Totally fine, ta

Lady Top and Man Vest - coming soon from Marvel Studios! Guest starring Cumberdick Bendybatch.

Aww thanks RichHL for saying that I'm too good to resist. Well, that's how I read it anyway

I think you need to be singing The Happy Wanderer for it to be counted as hiking, though it might also be compulsory to wear a brightly coloured waterproof and a woolly hat to fully qualify.

Tiny bug: if you go to your Training Log and look at the current month with the view of the detailed "Entries" list, the Hike has a purple square but there ain't no "haitch" innit!

... or "Hk" or whatever ...

Nordic Walking is still listed under Cross in the Edit Training Categories grid.

This is excellent. Thank you
As far as "where a walk becomes a hike" is concerned, for me it's a matter of knowing a hike when I see one, or do one, and it's a subjective judgment based on terrain and elevation.

Synge - is that looking any better?

oooo love a good RGB Hex Code

This is excellent. Thanks. I mentioned in my blog about the lovely pink appearance of my training log.

Ideas for other walking categories: Dog Walking, (Baby) Stroller (speaking as a grandparent to be!).

Unfortunately v'rap is right. It is subjective...for me it is usually wrapped up in ascent and the idea that today we are going hiking...yet because I live up a hill...my day to day walks also have a bit of ascent.

After my initial startlement, I already loved the shade of purple. I love it even more now you’ve shared the symmmetry of its number!

Fetch - the training log boxes now have an abbreviation within and look consistent with everything else, yes!

Fetch - Nordic Walking: yes!

The shocking pink is a bit much...I.don't like walk-general as I don't like run-general but I guess it fits with the other categories.

More importantly than when walking becomes Hiking. When does walking become running?

(I ask because I'm not sure my "running" could be classed as such currently....)

I'm loving the purple. Can Dog Walking be a sub-category please?

I suppose once red, black and green are taken, you only had yellow to play with and that would have been unreadable. You have my sympathies, but that colour choice is hurting my eyes; I'm just lucky I don't log many walks!!

Walking still appears as a sub-option under Cross in the Edit Training Categories grid.

It is very good indeed that walking is in the targets and 365 though.

Hike is what I do in boots over tough terrain whilst walk is what I do in shoes or trainers, usually on paths and roads. But it does vary sometimes and, as others have said, it’s a bit subjective. But we'll still have the choice if we want to change categories.

In the same way as we have run > run-walk please can we have walk > walk-jog?
For me, hiking is more a state of mind/intent and involves carrying a drink, a snack, and a waterproof jacket
I wish I'd logged more of my walking in the past now

Mandatory Mintcake - great band name!

Quite a few suggestions for sub-categories are appearing on the All About Walking thread too. fetcheveryone.com/forum/all-about-walking-60764/

(I can just imagine them supporting Fairport at Cropredy....)

Liking the purple 👍

Walk - Like an Egyptian

Walk - The Dinosaur

Hiking definitely requires a rucksack, boots (or trail shoes), lunchbox and kagoule ... and probably a decent few hours out of the house. Walking is just walking (the dog, to the shops, to get some fresh air etc)

For me walking becomes hiking when I'm wearing a backpack.

I'm enjoying looking at the new benchmarks, and seeing that I walked my fastest mile during my first marathon.

Run - To The Hills
Run - For Your Life

As a young'un I used to regularly get hold of the 'Survival Aids' catalogue - always wanted a 'Lifestraw' but the menus available in the dehydrated food section used to tempt me off that page.

Walk becomes hike somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.... or when you go off road with a rucksack on.

Thank you, I love it all, especially the purpleness. For me a hike is when I go off road, the rest is walking. A hike can be mixed, but must be mainly offroad.

Is he doing his Jamiroquai impression?

Hiking is where I where proper boots... it is v purple!

I like the colour and normally I'm not a fan of purple. I really like how my log looks now, the walking is really separated from other non running activities. For me hiking can be a shortish distance as well as long, but it must involve being out in the countryside and not just following easy trails. Shoe choice is a good indicator - either wearing trail shoes (or similar), or in retrospect wishing I'd worn trail shoes, makes it a hike!

I love that purple! Hiking for me is a planned expedition, usually involving maps and boots and more challenging terrain. Walking is stepping outside the front door at a pace slower than running (I know, that's a whole different topic )

Awesome, thanks!

Loving the changes and the colour! 💜

Hiking for me means putting my boots on and it being a specific outing, often with a rucksack full of snacks!! Usually in the countryside and often therefore muddy. Whereas a walk is just a shorter local potter often in shoes, trainers etc...

That pink is really bright! 😎

Nice! Just a thought, but in the future Walking could be added as a graph option fetcheveryone.com/training-controlpanel.php (y'know, rolling totals and so on)

Really excellent work though thanks

Great work Fetch, nice to see my walking stats.

Issue: not quite a bug, but my trainers under Kit are set as the default for my running and cross training, but not walking, so their mileage has gone down. I've updated it myself, but could all kit defaulted for cross training be copied over to walking?

Bug: Under benchmarks for walking I'm also getting other cross training entries, so my 400m walking benchmark is actually an entry for Cross > Rowing - Indoor.

Thank you

I don't mind that gym is mixed in with canoeing and swimming. No request for new top level category for gym from me. I don't know if this top level flexibility is better, worse or no different for Total Time? Like Feature 432. Happy for the walkers though! G

I see thw default footwear didn't work on the new walk setting today.

Living the magenta 🤪

*loving 🤦🏻‍♂️

A lot of my hiking is in sandals ...
But does normally involve a rucksack and a map

I am assuming there will be walk streak badges as per running..backdated obvs.

Excellent I hope that my Garmin-recorded hiking, which is actually walking, still comes in as walking not hiking...will know that later.

I don't know when "walking" becomes "hiking", but I'll join the chorus that say my Garmin has a setting to record "hiking" (which may or may not be reflected in the activity field in the .fit file).
Also, if you use the Garmin Connect route planner, it uses a different auto-route algorithm for hiking vs running (there's no setting there for walking) - I assume it's something to do with terrain but I really don't know.

Oh, and the "when does a walk become a hike" was discussed recently on the Running Is Bullshirt podcast. I don't think they actually managed to come to a decision though...

one annoying thing with Coros watches is that they don't have a walk option just hike, Fetch has previously treated this as walk so interested to see what it does now? On *strava* it treats it as hike which I normally change to walk as to me a hike involves a backpack etc.

A hike is off-road, or mainly off-road. Backpack optional, walking boots usual but not essential, stick for helping old lady up and down the really steep bits.

Thank you, Mr. Fetch. Really appreciate the new category, though the purple is a little startling.

Thanks for the update - love it! Only problem I can see, and already mentioned is my kit bag totals are messed up for 'cross-training' items.

Difference between a walk and a hike? A walk is just a walk and a hike is more.

Loving the purple. My Garmin 735 doesn’t have a walk option only Hike. Sometimes I change it and sometimes I forget.

Problems here still, or feedback?
Well, not a problem, a quirk. My walk yesterday shows in training as a walk, but not in Conquersize zones. Although other previous converted ones do.
fetcheveryone.com/t-19169550
(auto loaded as a run, then changed to walk)

Although I still think walking should be 2 points !

have you not had a questionnaire email? I had one that I think came from the Bedford team, but looked generic.

Missing an option for "i'll be there in the first couple of weeks once I've seen week 1 happen"

I'm with larkim - see from afar how week 1 goes and hopefully join in from week 2

Parkrun HQ are being really stupid.

We'll be back when we can. Ours is one where the landowners haven't yet given permission but I completely understand and agree with their reasoning.

Considering the Indian variant picking up in this area and schools starting to step up restrictions so as not to mix bubbles - I'm in no rush to mix with large numbers yet.

I've been back volunteering at junior parkrun for the 3 weeks - it has been more popular than before lockdown despite the restrictions in age.

It's all been working perfectly, we have had as many adults running as children and as many again helping/spectating! There have been 65-85 finishers each week.

This shows me how many adults want parkun to return as in most cases it isn't the 4 to 10 year olds that were desperate to come to the park 😁

The regular parkusers have loved seeing ud back, we've had so many positive comments

I miss Saturday parkun, and the community that came with it.

As with others I'd like to her back but week 1 might be too early. Maybe week 2/3. I've missed 14 months of parkruns I can miss a couple more.

I found our local parkrun very congested and busy pre-lockdown (rarely less that 350 runners, often over 450) to the extent that I didn't much like it anymore. I won't rush back as I'm not ready for quite such a crowd. Like Elsie we aren't far away from areas with an increase in cases due to the Indian variant. I've never been involved in the organisation side, but I do think parkrun's all or nothing approach is unfortunate. Across all areas of life we are having to do things differently and monitor the results. Everyone has had to compromise and adapt, I don't really understand why parkrun think they must be different.

I still can't run, and even walking 5k is hard work for me, but I will absolutely be there in some capacity as soon as there's an event that I can reasonably get to. (Of the 36 within 10 miles of me, only 4 currently seem to have permission - and they're all awkward to get to without a car)

parkrun have been doing lots of surveys about how people feel about returning over the covid period. They have also got some good science around risks of transmission outdoors (very low) especially with low community rates anyway. I want to be there week one.

I'll have had 2 jabs by then so I'll be there.

I'm with Autumnleaves - both my local ones were averaging around 500 pre-virus, and I wasn't enjoying the crowds then. Loads of people have taken up running in lockdown, so I can't see the numbers being any lower in future. Leicester has been and continues to be a plaguey hotspot, so I can't see the council wanting to encourage large crowds anywhere. I don't think parkrun have handled their comeback very well at all.

I honestly can't see me going back to parkrun. I might do the a bit of tourism if we happen to be elsewhere on a Saturday but tbh I'd rather do the outdoor bootcamp my gym does on a Saturday. I have barely run at all recently as I'm just not enjoying it and I just don't see the point of walking a parkrun as my home parkrun is not entirely supportive of walkers, most just run and go after, and I have on occasion been finishing and the funnel is being dismantled as I finish even with others behind me!

You haven't got an option for 'on the core team so no choice, whether I like it or not'. I know I could resign, but I don't want to do that either.

I've had both jabs but having isolated throughout I'm not going to rush back and risk it - the congestion at the start and finish can't be avoided and are step to far for me. I get the all or nothing position that they are taking. Hull have not yet been given the OK so there could be 500+ runners looking to run in Goole or at the Humber Bridge neither of which could absorb that sort of number.

I’ll be there from day 1 but as a marshal not as a runner. Definitely wouldn’t want to stand on the start line with (potentially) 600+ other people - our average attendance before the pandemic.

I'm getting less and less bothered. I enjoy parkrun, but have no emotional attachment to it and never expected it to love me back.

I hope to return at some point but not in any hurry, will give it a few weeks at least. Happy to marshal though.

Larks, I put "within a month" for your and TR's on week 2. i.e. not week 1 but soon thereafter (depending how it all goes). G

Data from Parkrun here: blog.parkrun.com

No proper critical data analysis in the write up though. I want to see statistical significances!

I would probably volunteer if mine kicked off again. I suspect as lovely as the route is (round QE Park) it may not come back. The small core team had to give up too many Saturdays

I feel the parkrun thread has turned into the bastard son of the Facebook parkrun discussion group. Mostly people bitching or having a go at each other, which is quite depressing.

I am happy to do organised races and therefore I'm happy to run and volunteer at parkrun. I think the risk to my health and other people is minimal especially as I'll have had 2 vaccinations by then.

If anyone feels differently then please don't turn up to parkrun until you are completely comfortable with the idea. Just don't moan about anybody else doing it.

What Groundhog said x 💯

I cannot wait to get back. I will be delighted to be there, start to try and volunteer with the kids (maybe barcode scanning?), and generally just looking forward to what is one of the few bright spots in the UK in 2021.

I’ll be back from week 1, mainly volunteering as we’ll probably get high numbers. I won’t be reading the parkrun thread though - far too much snarking. I find myself more and more disengaged from most of the threads unfortunately

I’ve been working in a busy supermarket environment all the way through this, so crowds & lack of social distancing is my norm. I’ve no trepidation about going back, maybe not first week though.

I've clicked for later although, as a core team member, I will be volunteering on day 1. I don't fancy running in the crowds we get until we can be more certain that it will not cause increases in infections. I'm not convinced that we will be sufficiently out of the woods. We have another big pr near us who do not have permission to start and that could increase pressure of numbers. Just the other side of that city is an area with an Indian Variant rise making me even more nervous.

There's always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!

Good work 👍

Not the woodshed - the quarry ...
bbc.co.uk
and dorsetecho.co.uk

😀😀😀 This is *exciting* 😀😀😀

Coincidentally, this is my current view on the Castle Challenge. Is it as tidy as yours?

Good stuff!

I'm all for people walking, as much as they want, and wearing a GPS device while they do it if they want. I even do it myself sometimes.
But let's not kid ourselves that it's a training category of it's own, analogous and equal to Run, Cycle, and Swim.

Good stuff!

PTB - I might make golf a subcategory of walking I don't think anyone is 'kidding themselves' that it's as tough or technical as R, B or S. But it still shares many of the same attributes e.g. how far, how fast, how much, where - and therefore I think it's well-suited to receiving the same kind of analysis for those that are interested. And being a top-level category opens up so many options for it in terms of the site architecture - I can't see any reason whatsoever not to.

um - ooh, I'm looking forward to Andor

PTB - I’d argue that one. Plus, if someone can’t R,B,S why deny them access to the same training bits and bobs if that’s *what they do*

Maybe other’s walk in a different way to how you do. For some people it IS equal to the others and sometimes exceeds.

I’d argue that fellwalkers are hardy, gnarly types who could our strip some ‘leisure runners’.

Thanks fetch, looking forward to it! 😀

Happy to see it here, with leagues, games, analysis, whatever. Just promoting it to a 4th top-level category looks wrong to me.
phal - you could make that argument for any of the Cross-Training subcategories.

There must be the need and call for it due popularity on the site if Fetch is doing it. I think it’s a great idea and really inclusive.

Maybe when it’s all up and walking (I know, hilarious 😉) you can go and look at some folks walking stats on here to see just how hardcore some walkers are and how on a par (not a golf joke) it is with the training within other categories. The mileage that some of the walkers put in on here is pretty gobsmacking!

You could, but I bet there’s a Lot More walkers than kayakers or squash players.....

I've certainly done walks which outstrip the vast majority my runs in effort: four hours up and down a mountain = running a HM? And when it's a Fetch tlc (tlc ) the walk-jog category I yearn for can be added under it. Along with hiking, skipping, walking with cat, etc

Looking forward to the new walking functionality

I predict road swimming losing some of its current popularity with the new choice of surface 😂

We're doomed, I tell ye, doomed.

Will you add 'bog' as a walking surface?
And ditto to some walks being far more demanding physically than many of my runs.

and badges for highest mountains climbed

I think this is fab
PtB, you have to train for walking distances and elevation just as you do for run/bike or swim events.
Collecting Wainwrights and Munros etc as a by-product new Fetch feature would be fab too...

I've got a Divine Comedy earworm now:

I posted that too Doogs 🤣 Double Divine Comedy! My earworm as well this afternoon! 😀

Oops, sorry Phal, missed that. I spent the entire washing up trying to work out if I should sing it in tenor or baritone...

No - don’t apologise - DC are ace 😍 lol at singing while washing up - perfect! 😀

Fab change. Thank you.

This is the perfect fit for me - thanks everso!

good luck with the table reformatting! Have you put it in the diary yet?

That's a great development. Doesn't affect me, though I am pleased that "Hike" on my Garmin comes into Fetch as "Walk" because most of my walks aren't hikes.

That's a good fix, I don't envy you the larger task.

Thank you. I shall do that before importing my lunchtime walk

Good luck with your shed. If we went by pace, it would log all my bike rides as runs and my runs as walks.

Neat! My Garmin 735 annoyed me because although it had a Walk profile the training was imported as Other (it has to be set to Hike to record a walk). Recreating the database table sounds like a very major venture.

Mine works fine on my modern Garmin 245 music however sundays walk was logged as a run on Fetch for some random reason yet was a walk on both garmin connect and strava. Yes i may have jogged down a hill for some of it but it was still over 15 min miling on average

these are the things that make Fetch such a great site. Thanks for always being on it.

Excellent! (And what Sigh said!)

sallykate, I believe if you use the CIQ app 'Simple Walk' by Jim Miller then it imports correctly as a walk

This might be pre-empted by the pre-empty bit but if walking is becoming a more important part of the site, can it earn more than one point in Conquercise?

That is a good fix - I sorted mine by getting a different garmin!

Does it need to be a top level category? Are there different types of walking that need subdividing? I could use more types of horse riding while you're at it... (missing all the points and joking!)

Thanks

That is exactly what I need currently, cheers!

I was just thinking that some people walk faster than I run. Make that most people! Emptying your shed is a horrible task and you usually find rats in there. Avoid!!

Maybe you need more sheds?

That’s great! Now how do I update the 1000s of records I currently have? Hmmm. 🧐

Send me a feedback.

Nice insight to Fetch HQ. I can probably understand why the office is not decorated in Fetch red and yellow.

Brilliant love this 👍

Ooh, you need to get yourself a better office chair! I forked out for a SecretLab chair at the start of my WFH adventure (fully expecting it to be repurposed as an awesome gaming chair on the inevitable return to the office) - the difference it has made to my posture and previous constant backache is marked...

Love the random organisation of books And the prints

The book (dis)organisation would stop me doing any work until I had sorted it out

thanks for the tour

Another great book collection.

Love these pics. Especially the books. What does Som's print say?

I’ve scrutinised your bookcase and there’s only one book missing that you really really need to get.....The Midnight Library by Matt Haig.

3rd shelf down on the left looks like balls of tinfoil..are these those hats we were going to use to keep us safe from the Computers ?

It is the Law of Running that Lore of Running goes on the bottom shelf.

Now you mention it, I haven't voted in the Running Awards since then...

For some reason, I was expecting a wall chart with all Fetch member photos..

Cosy

+1 to the chair, but also quite surprised you don't have a separate keyboard + mouse. (I couldn't do without mine, wired of course because they're a smidge faster than wireless, but maybe I do a lot of typing and editing in my job.)

The bookshelf is exactly as it should be - ignore those who have commented above that it should be tidied - it's fine! Stephen looks very comfy.

That's a fine Man Cave.

Damn. I knew someone had been panic-buying cushions.

Your books are almost colour coordinated but not quite

Is the washing machine being attacked by cushions?

I really enjoyed studying your study. Two copies of The Humans, I noticed, perhaps you could swap one for The Midnight library?

One of the best things about reports via Zoom on the news over the last year has been the opportunity to look at people's bookshelves and see what books I can recognise! Now I have a new case study!

😀😀😀 Good touring 😀😀😀

I do like this kind of content. Perhaps I’ll go back to IG

@Dio - I hadn't spotted that, ta

Lovely to see where the magic happens! I wish my space was that tidy but I approve of your winter toe-warmer. An office is not an office without a dog!

Please tell me you hid the external keyboard for the pic! 😳