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Will this be a side game to the main game? I.E. can you play in both or either?

Both in parallel.

This looks great! Ready for it.

Intriguing. Will be an interesting adjunct.

Can anyone play, or do you need to be in the top 64? I know you mentioned leagues somewhere

I'll start with a game of 64 based on the top ranked players, as a bit of a trial run. If it's good fun, it'd be easy to start with 128, 256 etc; or have multiple simultaneous matches.

Good. I reckon it looks good, it'll be difficult to see what's happening early doors, trying to beat your match in the main game and look at where you are in the top 64...I imagine it'll become clearer as the rounds go on, and become tactical. I also reckon people might play match game as opposed to the main game.....but all this is to be seen.

Looks really good idea and would act act as an incentive in those weeks where you are losing against a keen individual opponent. That said with my current losing sequence, I will need to wait for the 256 option to start or try and move up the table! As a side note, would it be possible to add a number next to our name on the Player rankings to save us all having to count 64/128/256 lines!!

I've just tried building a 128 player match, and that includes players with rankings of 1018 and above - so pretty much everyone who's concentrating and been round for a few weeks If you *were* relying on the numbers, you'd need to factor in the people who have signalled they're taking a break.

With 128 players, qualifying for the next round currently requires (a) ownership of a square, or (b) exploring 48+ squares.

I’m concentrating and been around from the start but i’m below that cos I’m just not running as much as i’d like but i’d still love to play. Can the bottom of the table have a game too please?

Impressive

Anything that has got my face on it nine times has got to be good.

Except a passport photo, which of course would be rejected.

i stopped trying to fill up grid when the scoring changed, better start again!

That looks interesting. Can’t believe I’ve managed to get that many squares! Of course, summer holiday marathon training and a Mediterranean cruise are going to blow any chance of me being a good competitor in this game. 😜

I'm probably looking at it but where's the weblink for "WSW MULTIBALL!" or whatever we're calling it please?

There's a link in the WSW thread description at the moment, and I'm about to add one to the game pages. It's been a busy day (podcast, newsletter, bug fixing the game, and picking up my Tesco shopping )

4th?? That's the highest I'll ever get. The squares being on the edge of the grid has nowt to do with strategy; that's where the road to the pub is!

test

Just wondering if I have any chance of being in the top 64. Also if I need to move my grid so some of the squares don’t overlap a quarry. Deep water isn’t that conducive to running.

You get points for swimming

I'm currently #21 in the rankings, but I now take a break in weeks when I have a Sunday race (or on holiday); otherwise I miss a crucial WSW day It would be helpful to declare up front when this will start and whether folks want to opt in or out that week, for those reasons.

I thought about opt-outs Sigh. If we start with 64 available players (pre-excluding players on a break), and during that week, one of the top 32 decided to opt-out, we'd just allow player 33 through to the next round. I envisage a time when we'd have multiple 64-player games all running, at various stages of the knockout process. If you make it into a 64, that'd be 6 weeks you'd need to commit to.

(checks race calendar) - I'm in for July/August

Looking at the players who are currently doing well in the 64... Gymfreak is currently the player owning most squares with 26. Her match suggests she's doing well - she's on 70 points. But there are players in other matches who own more than double the number of squares.

So doing well in the 64 perhaps means repeated visits to some core squares, to ensure progress to the next round. She's got some 10's in some of her squares in her match against straitjacket.

Next highest owner in the 64 is Wabo with 21 squares. She's actually losing in her individual match, currently losing 34-80 to Shabs.

It's going to be interesting to see how this affects things

I'm planning a bit less running and more cycling (and swimming) for July, but it can all be in my grid

Like, Like, Like!

Excellent.
Could it also lead to clan matches (where the team membership and training plans become part of the strategy) and Fantasy WSW (player price based on their ranking)? Futures. Maybe?

Could well do. It’s just the equivalent of a database view on the squares you’ve hit. As well as clan matches, could also do a house cup version. And any number of other variants.

I like this idea a lot!
I really enjoyed WSW but recently dropped out as I thought about too much considering I wasn't do that well at it. Would definitely consider giving a league based version a go!

Coming soon... LEGO® Who Squares Wins....

This sounds like fun. 😁

Will it be seeded or drawn of out a computerised hat? Good. Would be very good.

That graphic looks like a sorting hat.

Can’t you just initiate a game that people can join and start it as soon as enough people have joined that game? As soon as it starts imitate another. That way there will be different players each game and it won’t smell of elitism.

After you've sorted out the various 64s for Premier League, Championship, and Leagues 1 and 2 I'll wait to find out where I have been drawn in the Conference

Me too Baroness! I like the idea. I'm keeping up my losing streak quite nicely at the moment

Brilliant idea, can’t wait to start

Very intriguing. I liiiiiiiiiike it!

In the 64 game are the points scored for walking/running/cycling the same as the 2 player game. And is there still a first in the square each day bonus ?

The scoring will be identical to the two player game, there will just be more players competing.

Another question: would we have to choose between the 64-player game and the 2-player game, or can we do both in parallel?

You will be playing both in parallel - so you need a strategy that works for both

cool!

Can you please write the whole rules out in the game section for those of us who cba to read forum threads? Thx!

So when’s it starting in real life Fetch?
Not that I’m the slightest bit competitive🙄
I have a lot of weeks away coming up so it might not be ideal for me😕

Monday, midday.

Ah! Wish I’d known. Just opted to have a week off. Ah well. Next time maybe.

This actually sounds a lot like the “battle royale” games that are very popular at the moment; where it’s all vs all until there’s one winner, I like it!

I must admit, I've watched many hours of Fortnite But also Splatoon - check that out.

Would be good to have the old race comparison in that box rather than having to do two clicks.

I've added that now, SPR.

Thanks.

In terms of tweaks, I'm not sure how you replace the old race comparison. For me I've noticed 60 day totals seem to be important, but a good 90 day total can help overcome a slump in the middle. Also the what is important, can get away with less long runs and progressives which are replaced with fartlek for 1500m but pay for it in longer races. Not sure I'd get that from any other tool.

Actually the days before race breakdown for types of runs would make it the perfect tool. For example, I'm pretty sure for my best longer distance races, I've done two to three progressives in the weeks leading up to them.

Found one problem - of my own making of course. On March 11th i ran 5 miles around the deck of a cruise boat travelling at about 20 mph. I had it on GPS and clocked 14.91 miles. I entered the GPS and then changed the distance in my log to 5 miles. I thought nothing more about it until i looked at my yearly summary fetcheveryone.com/img/summary/2274/a42ee52e555457e78b0d3b3129f2af72.png

Hmmm, i'm sure i didn't do 36:50 for a half.
Have now deleted the original and replaced by the data sans GPS

It's now suggesting you've got a 37:59 half. Presumably that's genuine

Have to check the other cruise data, must be more.

Thanks Fetch, I really like the old summary graphs, being able to look at monthly and yearly comparisons is really useful. I hope we dont loose these.

Nice.

Like. Much clearer and those new monthly/year summary pages are looking really good!

I like it. A lot. Great work

Nice! Made me play with the race comparison and reminded me of a gremlin with it, whereby the first column of data is always your current training (I think), rather than that of the race that is showing as the header.

Love these tools though!

On 7), as requested in feature 128, can the y axis for each set of graphs be set to the same range to aid visual comparisons? For example, when I look at my forthcoming marathon, the y axis for the weekly run longest is set from 0 - 20 for 3 races and 0 - 40 for the other.

@westmoors - I think I've queried this in the past, and the issue is that as each graph is created in its own right it doesn't "know" what the axes of the other comparable graphs would actually be. It would have to iterate through each of the graphs first to work out the upper and lower bounds for each graph before preparing them all, so would be quite server intensive I think?

Maybe instead of separate graphs we need each data type on a single graph as per the ones in 6) above!

That's what I meant by "Plagued by that y-axis problem."

Can we have the annual summary in kilometres too?

I'm missing the annual and monthly/annual bar graphs already (which I looked at only yesterday - even though the link was fairly non-obvious )

Bookmark this Dvorak: fetcheveryone.com/graph.php

thank you. It shows me, for example, I might get a record June of

I have always preferred the original training analysis tool. It broke down pre race data into distance and run types with no charts and therefore no y-axis issue. Does that still exist somewhere? One improvement for that tool would be to be able to compare against any race rather than just your pb at that distance.

So, here's an odd one for you. Yesterday evening I decided that, actually, I didn't need my Fetch records to be in metric as I already have that on Garmin, and it would be nice to have an imperial equivalent to look at. So I changed the setting to imperial in my profile.

After another 5 mile run today, the infographic average pace has vanished but is now showing km??

You've caught me during some 'live' development. The infographic should now be picking up your unit choices. Try refreshing.

All fixed now, thanks

@njosmith - I think I know the one you mean. If you choose the 'Race Comparison' option, then look for the bit that refers to the old version.

I like this but I also liked the old summary page which looks like it has ceased to be

Have we lost the old summary table and graphs?

Which one do you both mean?

It was the week by week breakdown of miles pace type etc. Summary tab under training

Yes, that is the one. Thanks

If you scroll down a bit on the new summary page, I've added a list of links to those older pages. I don't think I've missed any working pages out, but do please let me know, and I can add them to this list. As I say in that box, if tweaks to our newer pages could remove the need for these older ones, send me feedback.

I prefer the old race comparison tool that @njosmith is referring to. I managed to find it though.

One request for it though. I like how the new one shows more than two races and that would help with my current situation. My PB 1500m race and second best race are in the same second (0.07 between them), currently the old one picks up the wrong race. Wouldn't matter except my training was better for the first one (I think, more miles anyway). If too difficult, don't worry, fingers crossed I can eradicate the 'problem' soon.

Re consecutive training / rest days analysis page fetcheveryone.com/training-analysis-consecutive.php can you confirm that "X-Training - Rest" is not counted in consecutive training? The other one that I use for "notes" is "X-Training - Other" but I suppose you can't exclude that because you don't know that it isn't used for important and intensive training like Cockle Digging which just isn't in the list. Hmmm. Fanks! G

Love it. Makes me feel heaps better for my lack of training now and it’ll be even more pretty in another couple of months

Wow! 50 people ahead of me in the queue and you only posted this five minutes ago!

50 people or 50 items? Each item is a month - they get rendered individually, then stitched together.

Ah! Items, m'lud.

Very nice. Mine has a small space middle left, so you can either balance it out by making the ascent diagram longer or the total miles column bigger or stick your quarters total in there. Very good.

Great! Not sure about my Ave Longest being over 100mi though (when longest was 35mi)

That's a font issue. It says "five longest", not "ave longest".

Lol. I even zoomed in. Thanks Fetch!

I read it as RYE longest! I probably need an eye test though.
Looks good.
Is it always going to presented as a .png? Or will it be clickable? i.e. click on benchmarks to take yo to that activity?
It'd be nice to see miles ahead or behind on the annual target graph.
Is the skyscraper representative of anything, does it change size or something?
Can the benchmarks in the table use the race portfolio too?
Top work!

The infographic is something that I hope you'll (a) like to look at, and (b) share like cooties on social media. It'd be nice to get something visually striking out there that shows the rest of the running world what Fetch can produce.

So (i) probably not clickable; (ii) I don't want to over-complicate the target graph - that info is available if you find the targets page on the site; (iii) skyscraper? It's just an image indicating ascent; (iv) yes, I'm sure I can finagle the benchmarks in the table

It looks good to me. I like the graphics - target, skyscraper - makes a change. Are you assuming people will look at it once a month, or at the end of the year?

quick feedback: on racing benchmarks I'd prefer to take the race time over the GPS time if you have both. ie I did Marlow 5miles in 31:29 but the infographic says 31:08 as GPS measured it slightly long. As it was a race I reckon the distance was exactly right and GPS was wrong

Where would you draw the line, CW? What if you ran the race for fun, but nailed a training run?

AL - I'm thinking I'll build a monthly equivalent too, now I've got the bit between my teeth.

more feedback: pace breakdown has a section for >9:40 and then 2 further sections below that (blue and grey) with no paces on them. What are they?

What if you ran the race for fun, but nailed a training run? If your best time in the year is also a race, always use the race time (as races are more accurate). If the best time is a training run which doesn't have a matching race just use GPS. That's what I'd do anyway! For me, training is never quicker than races.

The colour coded key for the pace breakdown is on the right. I tried aligning the text with the individual blocks, but sometimes the blocks are too small for that to happen.

best day to train is a bit of a non-event for me, don't see what it adds. Is the logic behind it just the day you run most on or is there a pace based element to it as well?

I think as long as the 'benchmarks' are simply called GPS benchmarks, then just do the simple thing and use only GPS data. We should all understand what that means.

Sometimes the monthly distance bars interfere with the text of the pace graph above, and even spill over in to the graphics above that (e.g. days of the week table)
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Looking at the height of ascents... given the current populatity/craze, maybe show it as how many everests that is? So my annual climb of 25km for 2018 would be about 3.something? Means more than a building for a symbol

The colour coded key for the pace breakdown is on the right.Got it now, it wasn't obvious as you say having the paces aligned with the blocks would be more intuitive but if it's not possible then that's fine.

as well as longest streak, you might want to put in longest break as well to show both sides.

Well, I think it is pretty damn awesome!! Will share mine in a quick blog now.

Ah cadence.....HR....

Wowsers. Lots of comments.

CW - "If your best time in the year is also a race..." - it's a further dig back into the data to retrieve this. I'll have a think.

CW - "best day to train..." - I dunno. I found it pretty interesting - particularly comparing with previous years. It's just number of days.

PtB - I think there's a few oddities with the data in 2012. I'm seeing massive red bars on mine too, around that time. Not seen too many oddities from 2014 onwards.

BB6666 - I asked for suggestions a few blogs ago. I was looking for something typically Fetch. In the end, I just stuck a building in so I could get on with it. Arguably it's no less relevant than a tape measure or a metronome. But if I figure out something a bit better, it should be no problem to replace it.

CW - "longest break" - that's a good idea.

Sigh - thank you

"best day to train..." might just be me but I have a set training plan for ages so I know I run most on a Tuesday, then a Sunday, track on a Wednesday etc. If you don't have this I guess it's interesting (so just ignore me!)

You know my thoughts on benchmarks Vs best races, especially as most of my racing is missing from this.

I don't like the race marks for interim distances but that's based on the fact that I just want to share my race performances.

I do notice that it's picking up benchmarks I've deleted for track (10k benchmark for 2018).

Not sure the five longest runs is useful in this format. I guess it's based on the marathon thing but given it would cover more than one cycle not sure it works. Doesn't matter either way though.

I like everything else about it and especially like the pace percentages on the right hand side. It shows quite clearly that my training is quite different from my race pace. Not sure I'd share it in current format though.

SPR - thanks for the feedback. I knew my updates hadn't dealt with your requests, sorry :-/ There's also the possibility that the next stage of development for this infographic will be to allow users to customise what the infographic shows. In theory, each piece of the graphic can be placed individually. Bear with

Thanks for the reply Fetch. I'll keep watching, and I still find it useful as a one page training analysis.

This is really good. I'd also prefer it to use my best race time over GPS as my 1 mile race measured long on my Garmin so is recording 5:32 for a mile. I'd take it but didn't do it

Keep up the great work.

Definitely improving, version by version. I tend to agree that if there is a race portfolio and a GPS log entry for the same day within, say 10%, of distance, always take the race portfolio as it rules out spurious data.
Also, not sure the data analysis is quite nailed yet: I've got two marathons that recorded longer than 26.2 that are both quicker (even at their full extended length) than whatever you are picking up to extract my marathon time from. (Neither of the two are in my race portfolio yet).

Also, not sure of (a) the value of Best Day to Train or (b) it's title as it's showing the day with most runs logged, which is very different and possibly skewed (e.g. on a Saturday I'll prob log a warm up, parkrun, and warm down, which give Sat a huge weighting that doesn't reflect any metric such as time, effort, distance, etc.)
Sorry for being a pita numbers geek

Love it.

I would like the option to see the data split into heart-rate zones rather than pace over on the right, if possible to select a preference

I like it Ian - just a note that it doesn't pick up the majority of my marathons in the results for some reason.

See my blog on June 18th - it explains why some of the longer benchmarks may be missing.

Soz! It'd be a bit extreme of me to ignore the London marathon going forward for this reason alone but I am sad!!

But... if it's in your portfolio, it should be picking it up and showing it with a little Harry Potter scar on the trophy. Can you paste a link to your infographic?

this one?

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2017
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See the problem you have with the VLM GPS log, but surprised the other one has issues as it's out in open country. Anyway, updated race portfolio, but the faster marathons are still not being picked up. Does a portfolio update trigger a data refresh the same as adding training?

Flanker - I think it's a specific VLM issue. Don't tell anyone but Abingdon 2017 came up short on my GPS

A portfolio adjustment doesn't rebuild the infographic. A nudge to a training entry for a given month will cause that month to get rebuilt, and that year to be rebuilt.

What? You expect me to get off my arse and run? 👍

flanker I think you just need to change something about a previous entry, not actually run, Maybe add a description to one and save your legs?

Posting a bit late to the party, but is it just me or is the data at the foot of the "data table" annual view missing the mileage by type of run for periods earlier than June? e.g. Long Run, Tempo etc. Showing zeros for me for all periods other than June and July.

I noticed the same.

It's down to caching. Make a pretend adjustment to one of those older months, and the data should appear.

OK, will sort that out. Presumably I'd have to do that back through my whole log to get previous years to recalc too? (Not a problem, easy enough to do!)

They'll catch up eventually. I think the month data has a shelf life of 30 days, so if you just wait a bit, it should happen.

Well said.

Indeed.

Rest in peace Edina. So sad.

Live everyday like it’s your last..RIP Edina x

Very sad, but what a girl she was! Proper feisty x

Ian - you've reminded me that I did see Edina on TV as well.

Thanks for triggering the memory!

Good blog, thank you.

A sad loss. RIP Edina.

Well said, Ian

I met her at the BIIIIIG mile in Manchester.

Thank you Ian, RIP Edina

Pitched just right, Ian.

What swittle said

Thank you. RIP Edina

Indeed, Fetch. RIP Edina.

Lorraine studied and researched to doctoral level at Leicester University, gaining her PhD in 1997. Her subject focus was 'The evolution of larval competition and
oviposition behaviour in the cowpea weevil.'
Surprising, isn't it, how wide the areas of activity are amongst FE members.

Thanks for that Swittle, I never knew, surprising and fascinating.

It's good; personally I'd like it to include declared race result Season's Best per race distance, and annual best WAVA, rather than the cups for distance based on gps log.

I agree on using race results for WAVA and best times

I like that a lot

*like*

The tall building on left, at first glance, looked like a syringe to me. Care!

I like a awful lot of that, I very much like the race times WAVA too, The bit in the middle interests me too, are you suggesting the numbers of runs on the days of week too...because that is useful for people who have trouble fitting running in...you can see what days work.

I saw the empire state building.

I like it. How about adding our Fetch Standard to it?

Active days could maybe say "out of a possible however many days?" +WS which days work idea!

Very interesting!

+1 for adding the Fetch Standard - even better if each Fetch Standard could have an appropriate icon/picture for them!!

I love this

It's ...

it's ...

amazing!

Like a lot.

My only suggestion would be in place on benchmark GPS distances the trophies are best race results for the year with a PB noted. Mainly because due to GPS it doesn't always pick up my best time as it ends up being 4.99km or whatever.

I also see a syringe for the building on the left at first. Glad it's not just me!

Another thought, this might make it all a bit packed, another element I occasionally look is ithe type of runs, intervals, easy, recovery et., another row of that perhaps, rather than the pie of quarters in the middle (as that is in effect the same information as the row of monthly totals across the bottom).

Looks great!

Now less syringey

Can someone explain the quadrants in the middle - just can't for the life of me work out what it's portraying when looking at the actual quarterly numbers from the bar graph below.

And what do the MTWTF squares represent - something to do with days of week I guess, but what about Sat and Sun ? Can't imagine you never ran on a Sat or Sun for a whole year..........
Feeling a bit dense, and will no doubt be a "D'oh !!" moment when it's explained

Right then... it's a quick scribble, so please excuse the missing Sat and Sun. I wanted to show the users active time throughout the year, so the quadrants each represent three months (clockwise: Jan-Mar; Apr-Jun; etc). And each one will show the number of days trained. So if you mainly train on weekends during the winter, this graph will show it. 'tis just a scribble for now, but I wanted to convey it to see whether it made sense.

Have also taken on board the point about the race times being reflected in the trophy cabinet. Wondering whether to turn the racing ones gold, like in the updated image.

Like it!

Storming work, chief.

Impressive work

Looks good. I'd scrap the benchmarks altogether though and just show race performances.

Loving your work

for those of us who don't race as often as we'd like - or maybe only one or two distances- I like benchmarks, so please don't scrap them completely.

For those who want benchmarks have an on/ off switch. Personally, I'd rather it showed my best times for any distances I'd done that season. 1500m and 3000m wouldn't show on that for me for example.

I like the benchmarks too. Until last week, my fastest 5K time this year was in a 5 mile race, so wouldn’t have been reflected in a record based solely on actual race times. (Although, predictably when I did beat it in an actual 5K race, the GPS came up a little short, so it didn’t register as a benchmark) Is there any way to show the fastest of benchmark or race results? with perhaps a distinguishing colour for a race?

Maybe show a trophy for a "race" benchmark time (i.e. a recorded time for a race of specific distance, rather than GPS distance) and a watch/tape measure/bit of string for a best time taken rom a GPS track slice?

I like flankers idea to distinguish between races and GPS benchmarks. The race trophy cup could then be coloured if it was a PB!

Could we have King King climbing up the giant syringe?

Me likey!! My best times over a distance are rarely achieved in races and not everyone races every distance every year, so only listing times achieved at races would leave some people short changed. Benchmark times would be my preference with something to highlight if it was a race - like the gold trophy mentioned above or a star next to the time............ or something. Keep up the great work!

McG - I'd be lynched if it wasn't Funky Monkey.

I'm reading the infographic as this is how you've trained and the 'benchmark' section as this is what you've achieved. Hence I'd like there to be choices in terms of what shows there as achievement is different for different people.

I actually want to be "short changed", I rarely race above 5000m, so wouldn't have many in the achievement section in terms of races, but in terms of achievements that's what I class as my achievements, not benchmarks which are just nice to know for some runs. A 10 mile benchmark is meaningless to me for example (although with other stats it might show I'm fitter).

Also as a track runner, I delete all track benchmarks as GPS always measures long, so as currently constituted the infographic wouldn't capture my actual races even if they were benchmark distances.

I've just seen the latest version in facebook: and I noticed that, when viewed in a Chrome browser on Windows 10, it lops off the bottom:



It's only when you click on it that you see the footer:



The same thing doesn't happen on the Android facebook app, that displays the lot. But, would it make sense to move the footer to the header, so the branding is always visible?

Plus: can we see an example for multi-sports?

en.wikipedia.org

I think Sigh wins. 😀

gotta be a lightsabre ? (wish I could figure out the correct thingy for it !)

Me too

Snowdon, multiples of Snowden.

It *obviously* wins, but I'm just a bit nervous about it being a little bit too much of an in-joke.

On the grounds I live in York, which is basically flat, can it be something like a pancake? A nominal stack of pancakes might be about 5cm?

Or sticking with Star Wars, why not multiples of Ewoks where each Ewok is about 1 metre?

multiples of the height of fetch himself?

Pork pies

Cornish pasties, if that leads to more Xmas prizes?

Probably Everest’s or Nelsons Columns, or the highest point in Fetch county?

I'm with poppyH - height of Lord Fetch.

I concur with Linds. You could have the world's tallest cake https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/tallest-cake- although that's not a daft thing. It's a very sensible thing.

Or possibly a ladder, from the jokes thread.

I have to admit that I've never understood the Prague thing

I vote for wriggling snake, multiples of snowdon

The 50p building in Croydon is 82 metres high and for a long period was the tallest building in the borough of Croydon en.m.wikipedia.org

Six foot sunflowers!

(Drell - me too! It was cited as a reason for one of my suggestion box suggestions being turned down, and I'm too nervous to ask what it's all about! Bit like those party games where one person has to leave the room - I feel everyone else is in on it except me.)

Some of my class were investigating the heights of famous buildings. They had to write a report about the one they had researched. One group came to me looking despondent because, although the internet had told them that their building was the same height as five giraffes standing one on top of the other, that very same internet had completely failed to produce any image of the aforementioned giraffe acrobatics.

Can you fiddle the height thing according to their home, you can have multiples of Snowden, Nevis, Scafell.

I just looked up how elevation is calculated for Fell running (according to Wikipedia), and it's expressed in Categories of average climb per km distance: en.wikipedia.org

So maybe something along those lines, e.g. ratio of climb to distance? E.g. you ran 1,000 miles but only climbed 500m all year = pancake award/badge; you ran 1,000 miles and climbed 500 miles = crampon award/badge.

Number of small Indy bears

Number of running shoes?

Depends a bit on the scale. What are the typical numbers (in “real” measurement terms) that we are looking at? How about a stadion en.m.wikipedia.org ?

Can we enter our own? So I might put in Statue of Liberty = 93m. Then any reference to my training would be in Statue of Libertys.

I’d also like all my running to be in furlongs 😂

...and chains and poles

I like the idea of stipulating you own. I would go for the GPO tower, 191m, 626.6ft.

I like nightjar's idea, but maybe that could be an add on. Some people may not want to customise.

Given that I always have to ask for help in shops I'd choose multiples of the 'top shelf'.

In parkruns or fractions of them (assuming they are 5k)

Steep Hill in Lincoln which is aptly named. You ran 100 Steep Hills.

I don't know the proper origins of Is It Prague? either but still giggle. I vote for

I'm another one in the dark about Prague, but I quite like not knowing. Knowing is over-rated. Unlike knowledge; knowledge is good. But anyway, climbing, I like Nightjar's suggestion. Or Snowdon.

I’m surprised nobody suggested the height of a Wookie

Parsecs, or fractions thereof. Admittedly this many not be terribly practical

Excellent one Heinzster. AUs any better?

Since dogs fetch, tennis balls? For something 1000 tennis balls high (1k tb) a cube of 10 x 10 x 10 tennis balls might be nicely graphic. 🤣

I was going to suggest a user-customisable measure until I saw Nightjar beat me to it, so instead, given TeeBee's point, may I additionally suggest that the default for someone who hasn't chosen their own unit should see a random choice each time, drawn from either a set list (à la the website greetings top left) or (potentially more fun) from everyone else's custom units. So you might see "this is the equivalent of 3,253 AT-ATs", but refresh the page and you might get "this is the equivalent of 81,325 Schnorbitzes"

(yes, I did work out how many Schnorbitzes were about the same as 3,253 AT-ATs!)

Pyramids - then you can do a pyramid interval and hill session in one!

Nice one. I copied it all into Excel to calc my percentages. They were much higher Z2-5 for the year I did my best training. Interesteringerly! G

I'm liking this summary. My LR is showing 0 across the line but the total shows 27.

Same as Minardi for my LR, 0 monthly but 50 for the year.
The percentages are great and clearly show why my VO2max has been steadily falling! Z5-1% Z4-0%... Z1- 78%!

Yes, Z1/2 not quite there, even Dimbleby can't make percentages sexy.

For those of you not seeing your long run data... I've just cleared out the cache, so when it regenerates, you should see it

Thanks, Fetch, it's brilliant! (And thank you for adding the percentages too!)

I should probably adjust my pace zones, my zone one has traditionally been my mile race pace rather than 5k - I find that helpful for seeing how individual interval sessions look, but for a broad summary it's not really a reflection of the top end.

Sorry to repost, but how do the HR zones get tweaked / customised? Both the two dimensional ones (for me, under 142 and over 170 are showing in the monthly summary, but don't seem to respond to any changes in settings), and the Z0, Z1, Z2 etc in the main summary (I presume they are calculated as a straight function of some other settings somewhere!!)

I can't make any promises (bit tied up), but you could try this one: fetcheveryone.com/training-heartrate.php

As luck would have it, just stumbled upon that too, I knew I'd seen it somewhere. Thanks! So as a minor bug report, the "edit" button on the new monthly training summary should go there, rather than fetcheveryone.com/user-settings.php which is where it currently points to (hence my confusion!!) Ta!!!

Percentages (maybe a toggle) will be good. Then ability to display two periods side by side (you already had this in race analysis calculator - specifying e.g. 18 weeks before two different races, to compare training mix, with the known outcome in each.) It's all good stuff! G

Personally I think it is frigging awesome. The other site has refused to provide this, even behind their paywall, there are so many threads about this online. I love it.

How do you change the HR zones? No matter how many times I change my HRs from my personal settings (the two figures of RHR and MaxHR) it doesn't seem to make any difference to the two zone numbers on the monthly summary? Am I being impatient, or am I missing somewhere else to tweak those fields (the "edit" link takes you through to the settings, so I presume that is the "correct" place to be looking?)

How do you change the HR zones? No matter how many times I change my HRs from my personal settings (the two figures of RHR and MaxHR) it doesn't seem to make any difference to the two zone numbers on the monthly summary? Am I being impatient, or am I missing somewhere else to tweak those fields (the "edit" link takes you through to the settings, so I presume that is the "correct" place to be looking?)

What I love about Fetch....well there isn't space to list it here, but how fantastic to have a new corner to the site, be asked for opinions, be given explaination and have things tweaked sooooo quickly, . Thanks.

It would be good to have it as a rolling period - so for instance I build up from October for marathons in April. Maybe let you set the start and end dates?

This owuld also live nicely in the Analysis section, as some bits have been taken down, and there are probably other things that coudl be added too. I'd call it training summary.

Overall though, love it, and fantastically helpful

BB6666 - if you look at the URL, you can fudge the starting month to be non-January.

Thanks for the update!

Looks great!

(Would it make more sense for the zones to display percentages rather than miles so that they can be compared form month to month more easily?)

Oooo. Don’t reeeeaaally understand it but I quite like it

I can see that on the comeback trail this year, I am getting faster (slowly ) and that is a real boost - thank you Fetch!

Looks good. Thanks, Fetch.

Looks good. I was going to suggest percentages for the zones too. Also maybe longest run?

Looks good. Couple of things I spotted straight away though. It gives me Miles not Km (as per my preferences). I ran a HM in Feb but it's not listed (not sure why that might be). I'll have a better look later when I have more time!

I like the fact that it displays in miles (even though my unit of choice is km), it's nice to have a summary in miles as well.

A nice to have would be if the best for each distance throughout the year were highlighted in gold, but completely understand that that's probably a lot to ask!!

Is the 2019 data up to date? My mileage is about 20 short on the main summary page compared to the month detail.

Am I missing the big button that takes you back from the Week Summary view to the Main Overview view?

Very nice

One thing missing for me. It lists (I presume it's fastest) 400m, 800m, 1k, 5k, 5 miles etc.....
Why isn't 1 mile listed?

Nice. Seems to have not noticed my marathon though

Seems to be missing a number of races for me, including marathons in May & June. Does it depend on them coming in at exactly 26.2, given it seems to work out other distances by taking segments of other-length runs?

Whoa.

When you bookmark it, could it have a more relevant name than 'Training Summary - Fetcheveryone.com'? Maybe something to do with it being an Annual Training Summary?

Best time for a mile is 2 mins 5 secs. Would that be when I forgot to turn off my Garmin driving home from the clubhouse?

Like it. As above I think the time in zone should be a percentage of the month rather than distance. Gives a better comparison month on month.

Speaking of distance, they are all in miles but my training log is set to kilometres. Can this page reflect my training log settings?

Looks great. Like the drill down to individual month reports too. Enabled me to find an activity that has benchmarks with WAVA over 200% for 400m 800m 1km and perhaps 1mile. Though none of the activity, when broken into 50m chunks shows nothing that fast. fetcheveryone.com/training/15051654/metres/50

Ooh, hope the server isn't frying! G

Not about the summary, which I'm liking so far - enjoy the personal countdown as it cooks ; but have you tweaked the featured blogs? Instead of falling straight off after 24 hours from posting, is there a decay so that very commented-on blogs eg HowFar?'s last one linger longer?

Not recently, but maybe a while ago...

Is it just me who's June 2019 mileage is different between the year summary and the month summary (which agrees with my training log)?

Did you read my follow-up blog?

Doh!!!

Yep, that fixed things. Sorry!!

Nope can't see it

Please make this more visible!

😂😂💖💖👍👍👍

I'm a bit behind on them but I am going to binge listen soon...

Well done, thoroughly. Right, just out of interest how do you promote this Fetcheveryone place? Podcast gives you looooaaads more promo opportunities! G

Errr... I have FB and Twitter - but beyond that I rely on you lot telling people.

I haven't got round to listening to any yet! Sorry! Am going to do some binge listening now school reports are done!

That's good. I am very much only listening to the podcast through the Fetcheveryone link, rather than via some other podcast player.

How to listen to the Fetch podcast? Just listen to the Fetch podcast! (One for the “Hello to Jason Isaacs” thread there)

Oooooooooooooo prettiness

Nice
Would it make sense to have the first 3 rows of the right-most column populated - total miles, total time, yearly average pace ?
Could the best monthly figure at each distance be highlighted ? The first thing I did in the above example was scan across each row to see the best times.

I’ve added those totals since taking the screenshot, and should be able to highlight the bests. Thanks for the feedback.

I need to go play for a while.....
Thank you!

Ooh, looks interesting!

Looks good. I'd like a rolling 12 months if possible rather than calendar year. Or maybe a period of your choosing up to a max of 12 months?

Like it!

SPR - the way I’ve built it, you can specify a year and a month in the URL, so that shouldn’t be too hard. The hardest bit right now is the time it takes to pull together all the data.

Looks pretty awesome!

You tease

That looks useful, especially for a year across year comparison. Would you be able to nominate the year, say from 01-02-xx to 21-01-xx. Being really awkward would it be possible to stick your races into a separate row

doh!, you know what I meant about the dates

As it stands, you can choose the year and month, but not dates within that month. So you'd get 1st Jan to 31st Dec, or 1st Feb to 31st Jan, or 1st Mar to 28th Feb etc.