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6 minute marathon PB on no long runs - where is the logic?

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Feb 2012
12:17pm, 1 Feb 2012
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Gobi
That is another thing I never get, sure do the half marathon but bolt some miles on either side. :¬) You don't need to do 20 but 15-16 miles with a half wedged in, oh the fun :¬)
Feb 2012
12:22pm, 1 Feb 2012
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rf_fozzy
Yes, that's what I've been doing. Especially with XCs (got to support the club! especially since I'm supposed to be the men's team captain!) - I do decent warm-up, race then cool-down, and I've been getting out in the evening for another 5 easy miles. Ends up being about 16 in total.

With a half, I'll do the race, a gentle warm-down, then go out and do another 5-6 later on really easy. In fact, that's what I've got planned for my half a week on sunday. Plus Parkrun, swimming, hockey and orienteering the day before. And I wonder why I have no spare time at the weekend! :-)
Feb 2012
12:24pm, 1 Feb 2012
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Gobi
LOL, Nice :¬)

Just make sure the easy running is easy :¬)
Feb 2012
12:25pm, 1 Feb 2012
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daviec
I'm using P&D as a guide for sticking tempo runs and intervals in to my training. Other than that I do what I think suits me best. Mainly a sub LT run or two each week (just under PMP for now), and my long runs have been at 20+ for a good 8 weeks now. I'll probably try an overdistance at some point. The last time I did one was a mistake. I took a wrong turn on the way out and got lost. Ended up doing 28, but I'd been running it progressive, and had to ditch the pace and do the last 5 at recovery pace to make it home. :)

Agree with a few miles either side of a HM as well. Previously I've run a 10k hard (PB at the time), and then went back to the start and ran the HM at an easy pace to get a 20 in on race day.
Feb 2012
12:27pm, 1 Feb 2012
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rf_fozzy
I do my easy runs with a friend to make sure I do them very easily. Especially since she's now pregnant and so has to keep her HR below 140!
Feb 2012
12:35pm, 1 Feb 2012
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Gobi
Davie - I think we largely see eye to eye on approach although I think I have questioned the pace of your runs in the past. :¬)

Fozzy - Handy indeed
Feb 2012
12:39pm, 1 Feb 2012
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run-forest-run
Now this is what I like Fetch for - interesting points on different sides and definitely some ideas to take away and try out - thanks :-)

Also doing Belvoir rf fozzy :-)
Feb 2012
12:50pm, 1 Feb 2012
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Fenland Runner
Gobi, makes a great point, in my view, to many people get hung up on pace/miles when time-on-feet is also a critical factor.
Feb 2012
12:51pm, 1 Feb 2012
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daviec
I think the difference this time Gobi is I've stuck to HR for the sub LT stuff. I got impatient this time last year and started running to pace and for no reason increasing the pace of those runs and definitely ended up going too fast on them. This time they've always been at a relatively comfortable 82-84% MHR, and it's taken 6 months of this to get the pace to where it is now. I hope it's an indication I've moved my LT quite a bit in the right direction. My other runs are slower than previously too. I was averaging 7.15/mile for long runs last time round, but they're more like 7.30-7.40/mile now and come in about 70-72% MHR.
Feb 2012
12:53pm, 1 Feb 2012
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Bazoaxe
All of a sudden tis thread is very informative and helpful ;-)

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