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6 minute marathon PB on no long runs - where is the logic?

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Gobi Feb 2012 12:57pm, 1 Feb 2012 46,200 posts	Quote Pin Gobi Can I just say from the start of this thread some of us tried to be informative. Davie - a good change and noted. Nice one matey.
Watervole Feb 2012 1:02pm, 1 Feb 2012 27 posts	Quote Pin Watervole Yes, Im with you Bazo..... liked the comment about running too fast..... hhmmmm... yep thats me, then wonder why things dont go to plan on Big Day..
kittenkat Feb 2012 1:19pm, 1 Feb 2012 139 posts	Quote Pin kittenkat Just looked back, if I was a bit mean then I apologise. Will wave to the Fetchies at London.
Gobi Feb 2012 2:20pm, 1 Feb 2012 46,201 posts	Quote Pin Gobi Bollox :¬)
Turbo doesnt count Feb 2012 2:22pm, 1 Feb 2012 4 posts	Quote Pin Turbo doesnt count Some good training info to be found in here in between the other 'stuff' cheers!
Ninky Nonk Feb 2012 3:41pm, 1 Feb 2012 40 posts	Quote Pin Ninky Nonk What sort of frequency / duration would lsr's need to be undertaken at to be more effective than shorter faster runs? As an extreme example I could see four fast (say 85% MHR) runs of 45mins producing greater training response than 1 two hour lsr a week.
Blackbird Leys ( boy) Feb 2012 3:44pm, 1 Feb 2012 1,506 posts	Quote Pin Blackbird Leys ( boy) I'll let someone else answer that one.
surreystrider™ Feb 2012 3:59pm, 1 Feb 2012 7,726 posts	Quote Pin surreystrider™ Can you count a 20m split in a marathon as a PB? runs and hides
Curly45 Feb 2012 4:08pm, 1 Feb 2012 42 posts	Quote Pin Curly45 Ninky - it depends - beneficial for what distance and for whom? Training advice needs to be specific and distance targeted but in general for marathon you are attempting to build endurance - the "easiest" way to do that is to run long. However, in order to run long you need the weekly mileage supporting that too. For easiest I mean most training benefit for least injury risk. Am sure Gobi and Daviec and others will have technical reasons why the training response from long runs is better suited to marathons than from shorter hard runs! Surrey - yes if there are mats and the time is officially recorded - some appear in the 20 mile rankings on Po10 from VLM for example because it is a rarely raced distance in general (even those who do them tend to run them at marathon pace rather than full out).
Fenland Runner Feb 2012 5:44pm, 1 Feb 2012 12,093 posts	Quote Pin Fenland Runner Curly45, do you mean run long or high volume (miles or time-on-feet)? My view is that variety is essential.... So in essence, MOST people will improve if you run four times a week, two 'easy' runs, one 'tempo', one longish.