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Race Standards

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chunkywizard May 2020 10:06am, 10 May 2020 7,645 posts	Quote Pin chunkywizard 🙁 I too think you should only match the 2015 figures from 2015. Otherwise you are saying a WR in 2013 isn’t a WR when it as ran because someone beat it in 2015. Also with your current implementation we will just see our past glories dwindle as the years go by to be less and less impressive. That’s a bit demotivating
Sigh May 2020 10:12am, 10 May 2020 6,224 posts	Quote Pin Sigh That was my thoughts too, CW - demotivating. Another analogy, GFA for VLM isn't applied retrospectively, the standards are set each year and runners have to meet them for that year. From a purely Fetch perspective, I've abandoned my Hyena profile pic, since it took me many years to finally achieve it and now the bars been raised higher, having already cleared it once. C'est la vie. My VO2 Max on Garmin is still going up so I'll focus on that instead.
fetcheveryone May 2020 10:25am, 10 May 2020 23,986 posts	Quote Pin fetcheveryone Again, this is comparing an absolute example (time) against a relative example (the WAVA scale). Your absolute times will not change no matter what. And though ones relative scores will diminish as veteran performances improve, your position within that distribution of performances will not change. A high WAVA score relative to everyone else will still be so, even if it is later shown that great-uncle Kipchoge can still bang out sub-2's well into his 90's.
fetcheveryone May 2020 10:27am, 10 May 2020 23,987 posts	Quote Pin fetcheveryone But having said that, I absolutely hate it that I've pissed people off
Flatlander May 2020 10:44am, 10 May 2020 1,689 posts	Quote Pin Flatlander Don't feel bad fetch, you're only bringing us in line. 4 years ago on pages 83 and 84 there was a brief discussion about the 2015 WAVA standards, so it shouldn't really be a surprise that the figures have fallen a bit.
larkim May 2020 10:56am, 10 May 2020 10,993 posts	Quote Pin larkim It does devalue the threads such as the 70% WAVA thread where people will have narrowly squeezed over, only to find they’ve fallen back. For me, it doesn’t really matter what the figure is, but watching continual steady progress was nice, and for that to have been reset makes me a little grumpy. But I will get over it. I just wish I’d got a screenshot of what the various annual standards were before the change was put in place so I could track it through a little better; or have the “old” values still displayed somewhere, just because I’ve got used to those, irrespective of whether they are accurate or not.
FenlandRunner May 2020 10:57am, 10 May 2020 3,504 posts	Quote Pin FenlandRunner larkim, I'm sure if you go to the website that stores all web pages you'll find it.
HappyG(rrr) May 2020 11:08am, 10 May 2020 34,768 posts	Quote Pin HappyG(rrr) It needed resetting otherwise couldn't compare externally. Thinks which are purely internal to Fetch eg I was a Lion (76%) in 2013, could stay? But then the numbers would be wrong. Never feel bad. Anyone complains offer them a refund. Oh, hang on...?! Update is great. G
controversial May 2020 11:28am, 10 May 2020 10,343 posts	Quote Pin controversial @fetch don't feel bad ... we don't want you to feel bad! W e just need to think a clever solution ...
fetcheveryone May 2020 11:33am, 10 May 2020 23,990 posts	Quote Pin fetcheveryone I've written a blog explaining where I'm at with it, and have put a poll on there. I've asked voters to check the comments too, so if anyone wants to put the case, please go ahead. There's a 'WAVA League Table' under the Leagues section of the site: fetcheveryone.com/wava_leaguetable.php It's not seeing much traffic at all, and hasn't been updated in years, so I was wondering about turning it into something whereby you could see not just your WAVA score, but also your position relative to other Fetchies. So as I said in my blog, if you got the 10th best WAVA in 2010, and the underlying data changes to knock some points off your score, you'd still retain your 10th position, because everyone would shift at the same time.