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P&D - 70-85mpw - 18 week plan support thread

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May 2013
12:18pm, 16 May 2013
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Bazoaxe
G, I think the adding to 55-70 or removing from the 70+ ends up in roughly the same place. I wasnt removing any sessions, it was ensuring Monday remained a rest day which on the 70+ plan has a recovery, sometimes double and also ditching some of the seconds runs or reducing length of a few runs. There was one scary day with 15 am and 4 pm that I reckoned I could ditch the 2nd run and settle for 13, but do 15 if I felt OK.

Ive got plenty time so I may even do a wee spreadsheet with both plans side by side and see how the modificatiosn work
May 2013
1:26pm, 19 May 2013
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Bazoaxe
I only have an older edition of P&D and the plans have been modified in more recent versions. Does anyone have the more recent versions of the plan in an easy to share format ?

I am interested in the 18 week 55-70 and 70+ plans......I have found the 12 week versions in the fetch training plan section, but not the 18 week versions.

Cheers
May 2013
8:06pm, 19 May 2013
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daviec
I'll see what I can do Baz. I've got the kindle version of the 2nd edition. I wonder if the PC will let me take screenshots. I doubt it. If not I'll see if I've time to fetchify it.
May 2013
8:20pm, 19 May 2013
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daviec
docs.google.com

Both plans in word format.
May 2013
8:21pm, 19 May 2013
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daviec
Lol. Just looked at it, apologies for the awful formatting. I put it together in libre office and it looked fine, but google drive has done it's own thing. It's still perfectly readable as the plans themselves are images.
May 2013
8:23pm, 19 May 2013
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Bazoaxe
davie, thats brilliant. thanks
May 2013
8:25pm, 19 May 2013
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daviec
No problem. I'm tempted to maybe have a bash at the 70+ for a few weeks to get some structure back into my training.
May 2013
8:40pm, 19 May 2013
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MPHinLondon
I hope to give this 18 week plan a crack for London next year too, I need more mileage but unsure if I just need more quality and can replace the GA miles, with my cycling commute (32 miles per day), I'm targeting sub 2:50, but want 2:45..
May 2013
8:54pm, 19 May 2013
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daviec
MPH, the first few times I used P&D I worried about the 'lack' of quality. Don't worry, it's spot on. If this is more mileage than you are sued to then you'll see the improvements in marathon. I wouldn't aim to replace GA runs with cycling. I've combined 80-90mpw commuting on the bike with full marathon training (~80mpw) and got good results. Obviously you're doing a lot more on the bike, but if you're used to the training load from the commute, adding on the running training shouldn't be too difficult.
Nov 2013
9:40pm, 5 Nov 2013
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The Terminator
I'm starting the 18 week 55-70 miles per week plan W/C 9 December for VLM. Look forward to following the thread and the exploits of others and hoping it will provide motivation on the CBA days too, cheers :-)

About This Thread

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This thread was initially about the 70-85mpw 18 week training plan from Pfitzinger & Douglas's excellent book Advanced marathoning. It's since widened out to include all the plans from P&D for any marathon. Maybe one day we'll get the thread title changed.

Current and planned P&D plan followers include:

MtR 55-70mpw London
Mrs Jigs 55-70mpw London
TripletDad up to 55mpw Edinburgh
Alexv 70-85mpw London
Crave 70-85mpw Vienna
thechunkygentleman 55-70mpw Edinburgh
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