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Meglet
Sorry, Kxf3
Feb 2021
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Diogenes
f5 then castle?
Feb 2021
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bish
Knight move first...
Feb 2021
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JulesR
So as Bish says it’s NxB+ first move, but what’s the follow up move that my opp didn’t have a chance to make as I’d resigned by then?
Feb 2021
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JulesR
Sorry - Knight takes Knight check
Feb 2021
6:03pm, 11 Feb 2021
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Surelynot
pd4?
Feb 2021
6:20pm, 11 Feb 2021
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JulesR
Yes, forking my Knight & Bishop.

The first NxN move clears it out of the way with check, for the pawn push to make the fork.
Feb 2021
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Surelynot
With the black queen lurking on the same file. Dangerous bacon, as they say.
Feb 2021
6:58pm, 11 Feb 2021
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Daddy Shark
Interesting puzzle JulesR. Also interesting to me is that you resigned. Unless I'm missing something, the exchanges leave black two/three points up (in purely material terms; the difference being whether the queen gets involved) with not much off the board. Down at my level (and against people up to 1200 IME) that is plenty of game left for a blunder to even things up (whether I'm the blunderer or the blunderee). Is it really the case that around 1700 there is definitely only one winner once that exchange happens? Or is there something else at play here (like honour/convention)?
Feb 2021
7:07pm, 11 Feb 2021
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JulesR
Fair point DS. I’d just played the reverse colour game against same opp & he’s pretty decent although I had the better of him in a draw.

Here Id have little compensation for the piece, maybe a pawn & certainly no positional compensation like any pressure from me.

Analysis had me at about -3 with best play & to be fair there was a pawn push h5 on kingside that it liked (the move that I should played instead of Be3)
I was annoyed to have messed up the opening, so ‘wrote the game off’ as a learning experience & won’t get that move wrong again next time.

Whether one should play on when material down is a whole other discussion that we had the other day on the main thread I think. Definitely play on when representing Fetch teams:)

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