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What really grinds your gears?

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McGoohan Jun 2017 3:56pm, 2 Jun 2017 29,358 posts	Quote Pin McGoohan So, a PM comes to see me to see if I can come up with a minimum dev/risk solution. I do this. I write it up on a whiteboard. I write it up in an email. Then he calls a meeting so I can explain it to his team. I go to that. I explain it again. Then I get called to another meeting to explain it to his boss. What was a) the value, and b) the point, of having a Project Manager?
Wobbling Jun 2017 4:16pm, 2 Jun 2017 4,984 posts	Quote Pin Wobbling The PM managed the resource and found a solution McG i.e. You.
Wriggling Snake Jun 2017 7:13pm, 2 Jun 2017 15,224 posts	Quote Pin Wriggling Snake All people in sw know that project managers (I prefer the term project monitor) are superfluous.
Helegant Jun 2017 7:45pm, 2 Jun 2017 4,882 posts	Quote Pin Helegant When I was a Project Manager I thought a key part of my job was to provide the umbrella that stopped the stuff from 'up there' from landing on my team. "Keep 'em safe to do the job properly."
Wriggling Snake Jun 2017 7:47pm, 2 Jun 2017 15,225 posts	Quote Pin Wriggling Snake That sort of project manager no longer exists.
jennyh Jun 2017 8:24pm, 2 Jun 2017 1,874 posts	Quote Pin jennyh [maybe Dvorak, and maybe I am just too cynical to give the benefit of the doubt, but I've heard it too much over my life - from a young age - to be particularly tolerant of it. V'rap - I think I've read that article - I've certainly read something on the subject that I came across via social media. Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but in my case it usually is random men in the street. WS - out of interest, is it women you know, or random strangers? Not that it's any better if it's people you know, I'm just curious?]
Cuddy Jun 2017 8:45pm, 2 Jun 2017 4,905 posts	Quote Pin Cuddy [I have a resting bitch face that scares people. Not a chance of anyone telling me to cheer up.]
Velociraptor Jun 2017 8:57pm, 2 Jun 2017 36,284 posts	Quote Pin Velociraptor [Nobody ever tells me to cheer up. Which probably means that I still smile too much despite a lifetime of trying to cultivate the hard reptilian glare.]
Duchess Jun 2017 9:06pm, 2 Jun 2017 7,506 posts	Quote Pin Duchess (We try to exist WS, then some sodding administrator demands we spend hours doing another pointless bloody report or duplicating information we've already put into one form into twenty different other ones. I loathe month end.)
Helegant Jun 2017 11:11pm, 2 Jun 2017 4,884 posts	Quote Pin Helegant (Yes Duchess, and what a shame it doesn't change. I recall one year end when I was asked (ordered) to find out from my Project Managers twice a day (!!!) what progress they were making on financial targets, and to report the numbers back - twice a day. I leave the conversation to your collective imagination. Not a time I am ever likely to forget.)