18 Jun
10:23am, 18 Jun 2025
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jda
I'm sure there was no simple politically-workable solution to the slave trade, until there was. Ditto female suffrage, perpetual wars in Europe, cholera, human flight. Or indeed any other element of societal progress since the dawn of time. ("simple" is debatable, but I'm not sure why something has to be simple anyway. Sometimes the solution just is complex.) |
18 Jun
10:27am, 18 Jun 2025
4,794 posts
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Cheg
I am sure it is fixable, but the cost is higher than people are prepared to pay, same for global warming. Both the demographics issue and the climate issue will get fixed once the whole thing collapses and we are forced to put it all back together. I'm not sure that perpetual wars in Europe is totally fixed. |
18 Jun
11:25am, 18 Jun 2025
53,114 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Am I taking it that thread wisdom is that human beings are too selfish and focussed on short-term self interest to fix "big" things, especially slowly worsening, but inevitable big things, where the big impact is on future generations i.e. climate and demographic income/care imbalance? Sad indictment of the human race, if so. Not disagreeing by the way. Just mulling. Happy Wednesday.  G
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18 Jun
11:38am, 18 Jun 2025
8,252 posts
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paulcook
Richard Tice: "I don't care. I won't be alive." Perhaps a misquote but certainly the crux. He's not the only person I've seen say it the last couple of weeks, from different parts of the political spectrum about different topics. |
18 Jun
11:40am, 18 Jun 2025
26,451 posts
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Ally-C
Global warming or genocide aren’t the big topics of the day tbf, it’s which toilets folk use and how many small boats.
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18 Jun
11:41am, 18 Jun 2025
26,452 posts
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Ally-C
Sorry @rf_fozzy had already covered this.
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18 Jun
12:29pm, 18 Jun 2025
4,795 posts
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Cheg
HappyG(rrr) wrote: Am I taking it that thread wisdom is that human beings are too selfish and focussed on short-term self interest to fix "big" things, especially slowly worsening, but inevitable big things, where the big impact is on future generations i.e. climate and demographic income/care imbalance? Sad indictment of the human race, if so. Not disagreeing by the way. Just mulling. Happy Wednesday. G 100% people are like this. It’s a sad indictment but it is what is, and what it has always been. Bit off topic but bear with me. How weird is it that we humans are so different from everything else on this planet. Millions of species and we are so completely different. But those millions of species are all short termist they aren’t thinking past the next meal. I’m not sure what point I’m trying to make. That the base animal extinct is to be short term. I appreciate given our intellect and technology we should put ourselves to a higher standard. What’s the film where humans are a plague of locus hoovering up all the world’s resources until we destroy the planet? It’s true, we can’t help ourselves. Problem is you only need 10% of people to have that attitude and the other 90% would get run over. As it is 90% of the world has the short-term view. |
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18 Jun
12:34pm, 18 Jun 2025
8,254 posts
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paulcook
Cheg wrote: What’s the film where humans are a plague of locus hoovering up all the world’s resources until we destroy the planet? It’s true, we can’t help ourselves. Problem is you only need 10% of people to have that attitude and the other 90% would get run over. As it is 90% of the world has the short-term view. True. Though it doesn't need 10%. 10 or so people probably could manage it by themselves. |
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18 Jun
12:42pm, 18 Jun 2025
4,797 posts
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Cheg
I think the film I was thinking of was The Matrix.
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18 Jun
4:28pm, 18 Jun 2025
33,967 posts
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Johnny Blaze
HappyG(rrr) wrote: Am I taking it that thread wisdom is that human beings are too selfish and focussed on short-term self interest to fix "big" things, especially slowly worsening, but inevitable big things, where the big impact is on future generations i.e. climate and demographic income/care imbalance? Sad indictment of the human race, if so. Not disagreeing by the way. Just mulling. Happy Wednesday. G Not from me. Others may have a bleaker view. |
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