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Apr 2015
1:12pm, 14 Apr 2015
10 posts
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debs1972
Hi folks I really need some guidance advice on this one!! I've completed 3 marathons but last 2 were warm and a nightmare, problem is my stomach seems to retain any fluids, foods etc I've taken during marathon then the nausa sets in along with tingling in fingers. I become very disoreintated and have nothing left even though I've hit the line well carbed and hydrated. About an hour after i finish the sickness starts and everything I've taken during the race comes up (over a litre in fluids!!) but once thats out of my system I feel as if I can eat and drink again. I've tried no gels just dried fruit and jelly babies and changing hydration (i currently use SIS electroyle tablets) During training I have no problems and can keep the pace constant up to 22 miles its fustrating as I've got a place for London 2016 and want to get this nailed. I did nothing different with my first marathon other than it was an autumn marathon. Just home from Paris marathon 2015 feeling deflated!!
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Apr 2015
1:36pm, 14 Apr 2015
9,996 posts
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Dvorak
Could I suggest that if you are really bringing up everything liquid you took on during a marathon, you didn't actually need to take any of it on? If its a hot day, splash some water on, rinse out your mouth, but don't properly drink it. I've admittedly not run a marathon but I've run a few halves without taking on fluids: I'm not totally a freak in this BTW, quite a few Fetchies do the same. You might benefit from training yourself to do this. Also, did you walk at the water stations or just keep ploughing on at maximum effort? I'm guessing that in training you are not doing your 22 miles at MP, therefore your body has a margin to attend to things like digestion. Taking such a long time to start throwing up is a bit odd as well, usually it occurs pretty soon after the cessation of effort.
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Apr 2015
1:44pm, 14 Apr 2015
16,401 posts
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DeeGee
I have always had issues digesting carbs on the run, found an increasingly small range of gels working for me, until last year, half way through the second day of a multi-day event, I just bonked. Couldn't take on anything sugary at all. Thankfully, the event was one with laps, with a well-stocked aid station, so I was able to switch to crisps and the like to get me round, but suddenly feeling like I was going to faint was not a pleasant experience.
I've tried to resolve the problem by working on getting decent (non-white) carbs in for the couple of days before a race (usually scuppering this by drinking half a pint too much the night before ;-)) and switching to Dextro tablets rather than taking on 60ml of gel and a whole bunch of water. I can carry these in a pocket and it means I only need to drink to thirst rather than having to wash the gels down with water.
I have a feeling (I'm not an expert) that you're possibly taking on too much water, especially if you've got a litre of fluid or so sloshing round your system post race. I've noticed that you've said that the last couple of times it was warm - have you been drinking to thirst, or taking on more than you would normally because of the weather? If you are drinking more than usual, then you may need to take on salt. I'm not convinced of the wisdom of taking on salt with water when you're already lacking in salt, although I can't think of an alternative that doesn't involve carrying sachets of salt of bags of crisps round with you.
I find it difficult to digest anything post-race either, which rather scuppers my chances in multi-days. It was worst when I was taking on liquid carbs mid-race, but it's still there, although now its more that I don't fancy eating anything rather than I can't.
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Apr 2015
2:26pm, 14 Apr 2015
11 posts
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debs1972
I think I've been so scared of getting dehydrated that I have been drinking too much I did manage to beg a handful of crisps from a spectator at the 22 mile mark but by that time it was too late!
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Apr 2015
2:52pm, 14 Apr 2015
1,052 posts
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Spleen
Yep, just drink when you're thirsty, until you feel you don't want any more, then stop. Regardless of the temperature. If it's hot you'll feel thirstier, so the same applies.
In addition to not taking on too much during the race, depending on what you mean by hitting the line well hydrated, you may have taken on too much before. There is no need to guzzle water before you start, all it will do is send you to the toilet early. I also ran Paris and I drank nothing between waking and starting other than a small glass of orange juice - but I did eat about half a bowl of pasta and half an apple. Everyone forgets that there is a fair amount of water in food.
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Apr 2015
2:53pm, 14 Apr 2015
50,751 posts
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plodding hippo
how much do you drink during a typical marathon
I agree, might be way too much for you
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Apr 2015
3:18pm, 14 Apr 2015
12 posts
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debs1972
I carry a 500ml bottle with me and refilled it once on Sunday I had 2 litres on Saturday and just had a cup of herbal tea with my porridge on morning of marathon
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Apr 2015
3:41pm, 14 Apr 2015
358 posts
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Gromit
Like others have said , sounds like you drank too much, I also ran on sunday under the baking French sunshine , I'd had a cup of tea with my breakfast and nothing else before the race , didn't need the loo at al at the start or throughout the race , in fact didn't go again until about 3pm back at the hotel but I did have about 4 or maybe 5 of the bottles of water but didn't drink at the stations just carried the bottles and slowly drank to thirst the whole way round , I know I've read quite a lot about runners actually taking on too much water being as dangerous as not enough , its hard to get the balance right and it will be different for everyone too .................
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Apr 2015
3:45pm, 14 Apr 2015
13,832 posts
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Ted
I don't know if you have already stated up there ^^^ Too much text for my little beady eyes.
What are you doing different between your long runs and your marathons? Apart from being rewarded with a medal.
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Apr 2015
3:49pm, 14 Apr 2015
50,752 posts
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plodding hippo
a litre for a warm marathon.Hm, that sounds not so bad
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