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Apr 2013
10:03am, 25 Apr 2013
93 posts
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K5 Gus
If you look at the detail of a training run that you've done which has the splits imported from a Garmin, then one of the charts down the left hand side is a bar chart for the pace.
What is this showing, I can't work it out.
Example, my splits for last night's run started 9:03, 8:28, 9:25, 9:55,....... and the bars on the chart ( with the x-axis at 1 mile ) show 543, 612, 566, 897, ....
I've worked out that for mile 1 then it's the number of seconds, ie 9:03 is 543 seconds. But why when mile 2 is faster, ie 8:28, does it have 612 ? It can't be some sort of average rolling amount either as the number would still be less than mile 1. My mile 4 split of 9:55 jumps way up to 897.
I've worked out that if I change the x-axis to smaller or larger distance then for mile 1 it's just the number of seconds over that new distance ( ie if I change to 0.5 mile then first 2 columns are 288 and 255 which when added together give 543 )
I bet it's something really obvious, but I'm not seeing it - put me out of my misery please !
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Apr 2013
10:04am, 25 Apr 2013
94 posts
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K5 Gus
Oops - I mean bar chart for splits, not pace
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Apr 2013
10:09am, 25 Apr 2013
12,652 posts
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fetcheveryone
It *is* the number of seconds, so 543/60 = 9:03 etc. However, because they come from the elapsed time recorded in the GPS trace, rather than the summary (which is what I use to populate the 'splits' field), they can show up any pauses in your run. Did you stop for a five minute wee in mile four? 
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Apr 2013
10:13am, 25 Apr 2013
95 posts
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K5 Gus
Ahh, see told you it would be obvious
Never thought of it being elapsed time - it was a club run, so there were stops to let the group catch up ( but no stops in mile 1 ! )
Thank you sir !
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Apr 2013
10:27am, 25 Apr 2013
1,669 posts
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ChrisThePuma
K5 - to overcome this for intervals or when club running and waiting for stragglers i hit the lap button when i stop, then again when i start again thus you get split times for the efforts which are seperate from the recoveries.
HTH?
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Apr 2013
11:08am, 25 Apr 2013
96 posts
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K5 Gus
CTP - would that have changed anything for this specific graph though, if the y-axis is elapsed time ?
When you are stopped ( whether you use the start/stop button or the Lap button ) the elapsed time for the session is still counting the same I think.
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Apr 2013
11:15am, 25 Apr 2013
1,672 posts
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ChrisThePuma
no - just checked one of my club runs - it make no sense! Oh well, ignore me.
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Apr 2013
11:15am, 25 Apr 2013
1,673 posts
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ChrisThePuma
i will just ignore the chart and check my actual split times logged.
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Apr 2013
11:22am, 25 Apr 2013
97 posts
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K5 Gus
The chart is a nice graphical representation of pace if you run continuously, but not so useful if there are stops involved as in intervals or group runs.
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May 2013
8:02pm, 1 May 2013
3,541 posts
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paul the builder
Boing.
I have had a low-level grumble about this before, glad to see I'm not the only one who gets slightly upset by data that isn't quite right.
Fetch - is there another data field more suitable for this so that pauses *don't* get included within splits when they shouldn't be? I mean - if I wanted my split to include the time I stopped for traffic, or a wee, I'd leave the watch running.
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