Splits Bar Chart in Training

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K5 Gus Apr 2013 10:03am, 25 Apr 2013 93 posts	0 K5 Gus If you look at the detail of a training run that you've done which has the splits imported from a Garmin, then one of the charts down the left hand side is a bar chart for the pace. What is this showing, I can't work it out. Example, my splits for last night's run started 9:03, 8:28, 9:25, 9:55,....... and the bars on the chart ( with the x-axis at 1 mile ) show 543, 612, 566, 897, .... I've worked out that for mile 1 then it's the number of seconds, ie 9:03 is 543 seconds. But why when mile 2 is faster, ie 8:28, does it have 612 ? It can't be some sort of average rolling amount either as the number would still be less than mile 1. My mile 4 split of 9:55 jumps way up to 897. I've worked out that if I change the x-axis to smaller or larger distance then for mile 1 it's just the number of seconds over that new distance ( ie if I change to 0.5 mile then first 2 columns are 288 and 255 which when added together give 543 ) I bet it's something really obvious, but I'm not seeing it - put me out of my misery please !
K5 Gus Apr 2013 10:04am, 25 Apr 2013 94 posts	0 K5 Gus Oops - I mean bar chart for splits, not pace
fetcheveryone Apr 2013 10:09am, 25 Apr 2013 12652 posts	0 fetcheveryone It is the number of seconds, so 543/60 = 9:03 etc. However, because they come from the elapsed time recorded in the GPS trace, rather than the summary (which is what I use to populate the 'splits' field), they can show up any pauses in your run. Did you stop for a five minute wee in mile four?
K5 Gus Apr 2013 10:13am, 25 Apr 2013 95 posts	0 K5 Gus Ahh, see told you it would be obvious Never thought of it being elapsed time - it was a club run, so there were stops to let the group catch up ( but no stops in mile 1 ! ) Thank you sir !
ChrisThePuma Apr 2013 10:27am, 25 Apr 2013 1669 posts	0 ChrisThePuma K5 - to overcome this for intervals or when club running and waiting for stragglers i hit the lap button when i stop, then again when i start again thus you get split times for the efforts which are seperate from the recoveries. HTH?
K5 Gus Apr 2013 11:08am, 25 Apr 2013 96 posts	0 K5 Gus CTP - would that have changed anything for this specific graph though, if the y-axis is elapsed time ? When you are stopped ( whether you use the start/stop button or the Lap button ) the elapsed time for the session is still counting the same I think.
ChrisThePuma Apr 2013 11:15am, 25 Apr 2013 1672 posts	0 ChrisThePuma no - just checked one of my club runs - it make no sense! Oh well, ignore me.
ChrisThePuma Apr 2013 11:15am, 25 Apr 2013 1673 posts	0 ChrisThePuma i will just ignore the chart and check my actual split times logged.
K5 Gus Apr 2013 11:22am, 25 Apr 2013 97 posts	0 K5 Gus The chart is a nice graphical representation of pace if you run continuously, but not so useful if there are stops involved as in intervals or group runs.
paul the builder May 2013 8:02pm, 1 May 2013 3541 posts	0 paul the builder Boing. I have had a low-level grumble about this before, glad to see I'm not the only one who gets slightly upset by data that isn't quite right. Fetch - is there another data field more suitable for this so that pauses don't get included within splits when they shouldn't be? I mean - if I wanted my split to include the time I stopped for traffic, or a wee, I'd leave the watch running.