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So who won the tour from 1999 to 2005

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stuart little Jan 2023 7:55am, 19 Jan 2023 2,285 posts	Quote Pin stuart little Anyone else get that feeling they got when the LA story all came out? No. I'm not that naive anymore. Also looking forward to Astana working their magic on Cav this year...
Pothunter Jan 2023 11:06pm, 21 Jan 2023 7,250 posts	Quote Pin Pothunter The Armstrong Lie is on Sky again tonight. Watching it (again) I’m reminded just how arrogant Armstrong is. He really believed he was in the right. Looking back it was so obvious they were all doped to the eyeballs.
Oranj Mar 2023 10:22am, 22 Mar 2023 3,522 posts	Quote Pin Oranj Went for a Covid jab, got EPO instead: nzherald.co.nz I only got a 'flu booster with my last Covid jab, feel like I'm missing out
SailorSteve Aug 2023 8:14pm, 15 Aug 2023 2,422 posts	Quote Pin SailorSteve “Much like with Alberto Salazar… a doping happened, but no athletes/ cyclists were doped 🎩❓😏” x.com
Velociraptor Aug 2023 8:34pm, 15 Aug 2023 64,956 posts	Quote Pin Velociraptor So, like, has the scoundrel been banned from competing in sport as well as from practising medicine?
SailorSteve Aug 2023 9:02pm, 15 Aug 2023 2,423 posts	Quote Pin SailorSteve From The Times “The doctor who was a central figure in the success enjoyed by British Cycling and Team Sky between 2010 and 2017 has received a four-year ban from all sport for possession of a banned substance and lying, twice, to UK Anti-Doping (Ukad) investigators. Richard Freeman worked closely with Sir Bradley Wiggins when he followed his historic victory in the Tour de France with time-trial gold at the 2012 Olympics and was also the physician for the British cycling team at both the London and 2016 Rio Games. However, on Tuesday Freeman was issued by Ukad with what amounts to a first doping sanction for a member of staff associated with the period of dominance of British cycling, masterminded by Sir Dave Brailsford, on both the professional road circuit and the boards of the Olympic velodrome. Freeman has already been removed from the medical register, losing a High Court appeal in January against a decision made in March 2021 by a Medical Practitioners Tribunal (MPT). He was found to have ordered 30 sachets of Testogel, containing the banned substance testosterone, to the National Cycling Centre in Manchester that was home to both Team Sky and the Olympic and Paralympic teams “knowing or believing it to be for an unnamed rider in May 2011 to improve their athletic performance”.
Velociraptor Aug 2023 9:55pm, 15 Aug 2023 64,958 posts	Quote Pin Velociraptor I should feel as if I'm seeing a man being kicked when he's down, but I don't have an ounce of sympathy, I'd kick him myself if I had the chance.
Pothunter Aug 2023 11:28pm, 15 Aug 2023 8,118 posts	Quote Pin Pothunter Can he really have been acting in isolation? Is it feasible that Brailsford et al didn’t know what he was doing?
larkim Aug 2023 7:18am, 16 Aug 2023 21,740 posts	Quote Pin larkim It does amaze me that there isn't more clarity still about what was going on, other than Freeman's own assertions about what happened. That cuts both ways of course. Noone has popped their head over the parapet to say convincingly that this was doping of an athlete / rider, and there's noone really there to convincingly backup the story that Freeman tells either (or some different flavour of it). The Occam's razor bit would say the most likely scenario is the simplest one - but is that doping or not?
Derby Tup Aug 2023 7:43am, 16 Aug 2023 60,891 posts	Quote Pin Derby Tup Sky is big business. No-one will want to stare the obvious