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So who won the tour from 1999 to 2005

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Yes. Having one is unfortunate, two well …

I also notice Freeman was doctor at Bolton Wanderers for a period which was their best for nigh on 60 years.

Yes. Pure conjecture and circumstantial evidence but it makes it harder to believe.
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Hessmann suspended today too. The old Rabobank habits at Jumbo die hard.
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I think the point with Armstrong is you needed to believe in myths like a cancer survivor wouldn't dope to not think he was guilty by the point he was actually found guilty. It didn't need conjecture.
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Myths like having undiagnosed bilharizia
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Again, there was hard evidence against Armstrong with witnesses that needed the shield to be ignored.

I'm not saying Froome waa clean or not, I have no truck in the game but Armstrong is not the same.
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Obviously a doctor banned for actions taken while working for the team is grounds for suspicion and investigation.
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Professional sportspeople cheat. Footballers hold opponents at set-pieces and dive, cricketers ball tamper and claim catches that don't carry. Having the right pillow or a top notch chef doesn't make a journeyman into a winner and certainly doesn't make a none doper beat a doper
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People cheat full stop. It's not a professional only thing.
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