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27 Jun
11:39pm, 27 Jun 2025
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paulcook
There's too much that could happen to predict anyway near accurately yet. Only accurate picture is Reform are leading the polls, winning by elections (both nationally and locally), but the flip side is their party member figures are falling apparently, Farage's most recent polling vs Starmer particularly wasn't as strong as Reform vs Labour, and they're getting some pushback at how badly they've begun on the councils they won.

Most of them think they've already won it. I could do a Keegan quote but I won't!
28 Jun
12:03am, 28 Jun 2025
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JamieKai *chameleon*
Monster Raving Loony party for 2019 majority, according to scientific poll I just conducted in my living room...
28 Jun
12:03am, 28 Jun 2025
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JamieKai *chameleon*
*2029, obvs. Stupid fat fingers :D
28 Jun
7:31am, 28 Jun 2025
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Dave W
'Not what we voted for': Pro-Trump Florida man in ICE custody insists he's not a criminal.
"This is not what we voted for," Florida Republican state senator Ileana Garcia said in a June social media post, calling the administration's deportation actions in the Sunshine State "unacceptable and inhumane." Garcia, who is the descendant of Cuban refugees, added she was "deeply disappointed by these actions."
Rep. Maria Elvira Salazar (R-Fla.) represents parts of Miami-Dade County, where the Trump supporting man and his family live. She acknowledged earlier this month that the Trump administration's mass deportations of immigrants are destabilizing families and communities across the country.

Must be pretty effing dense not to see this coming.

They're "disappointed" are they. My heart bleeds purple piss for them.
28 Jun
8:38am, 28 Jun 2025
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richmac
Vote for face eating panthers then act surprised when your face gets eaten by a panther?

Who are these idiots?
28 Jun
9:01am, 28 Jun 2025
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Muttley
So they voted for the government to round up the people it doesn't like. Which is great fun as long as the people the government doesn't like are the people you don't like either.

But when the government has got rid of them, what if it now decides that it doesn't like you?

Anyone tempted to vote for Reform should think on that ...
28 Jun
9:15am, 28 Jun 2025
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richmac
At first they came for....
SPR
28 Jun
11:09am, 28 Jun 2025
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SPR
This was mentioned a couple of pages back but this apology and explanation absolutely beggars belief.

Keir Starmer says he ‘deeply regrets’ island of strangers speech

theguardian.com
28 Jun
11:15am, 28 Jun 2025
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Chrisull
fozzy - I know, I know - Boris Johnson really should still be in charge if he wasn't the most witless, feckless, lazy, immoral, useless cretin. (And delighted he isn't) Predictions are not worth the paper they are written on. Mea culpa.

However - it's the county councils that worry me, at that level, it should be candidate rather than party and Reform, without any ground game, are polling higher than UKIP/Brexit party did and winning significant amounts of seats. The signs are here.

We know with PR, they'd already have a significant foothold and only FPTP has kept them where they are, BUT they are breaching that level that will give them significant seats. Starmer is hellbent on making Labour totally ineffectual. Badenoch is ready to gift Reform half of their remaining seats. Three years is a long time, but this isn't exactly a bolt from the blue. Labour have to up their game significantly (and they are far less volatile about leaders than the Tories), or the Tories need to elect a new leader and up theirs. And from what we know of political parties, they usually under perform people's expectations.
28 Jun
12:32pm, 28 Jun 2025
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richmac
SPR wrote:This was mentioned a couple of pages back but this apology and explanation absolutely beggars belief. Keir Starmer says he ‘deeply regrets’ island of strangers speech theguardian.com


I heard this on R4 this morning, it was claimed he didn't know the parallels. What a load of bollocks l, either he's been living on the moon or thinks we have.

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