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HappyG(rrr) Jun 2019 1:14pm, 18 Jun 2019 31,815 posts	Quote Pin HappyG(rrr) I didn't say it was natural SPR, that's why you need to work at it, practice, do drills, possibly even be coached. And also why making a change is difficult, and as I opined about 1,000,000 pages back, possibly risky! But possibly worth doing. Albeit carefully! G
Sharkie Jun 2019 1:21pm, 18 Jun 2019 14,888 posts	Quote Pin Sharkie wry smile my argument against Pose still holds Several years on. It’s basically sprint training dismissing one important fact. Ground reaction. Of COURSE there’s a push as well as a pull!
GlennR Jun 2019 1:28pm, 18 Jun 2019 43,050 posts	Quote Pin GlennR ~awaits the arrival of the four horsemen of the apocalypse~
SPR Jun 2019 1:34pm, 18 Jun 2019 28,067 posts	Quote Pin SPR Lol! Front side mechanics r us.
run free Jun 2019 1:35pm, 18 Jun 2019 3,392 posts	Quote Pin run free Oh my... What is natural vs What has been naturalised? Kids who have not worn shoes for very long tend to do the Pose technique very well. In school I was told to heal strike and stride, I felt slower and also thought I hadn't understood very well. So practiced what was not natural and made it natural. Also found I liked wearing shoes with thick soles, hence from a marketing angle it is good to push a shoe that you would have to frequently purchase when the soles wear away from the big impact. A study on the African runners might help, as poverty has meant they lacked shoes I am glad I worked hard at understanding Pose (did 2 courses, and helped out in 3 courses) as it definitely has meant that I have been able to do many more marathons and miles without the normal dead leg fatigue + without injuries that plagued me on my first 4 marathons + have been able to mostly wear any footwear + my footwear has lasted waaaay longer than when I used to heal strike.
Garfield Jun 2019 1:45pm, 18 Jun 2019 10,575 posts	Quote Pin Garfield Interesting run free...we weren't told how to run when in school. Hubby always told me to heel strike when walking...to avoid tripping and falling over! I've always run in a Chi/pose running hybrid.
SSLHP (Shoes smell like horse piss) Jun 2019 3:32pm, 18 Jun 2019 444 posts	Quote Pin SSLHP (Shoes smell like horse piss) "speed = cadence x stride length". Nope, stride length increases as a result of travelling faster! Cadence x angle of fall = speed = stride length This is what I meant by 'true' stride length earlier. Imagine you're running along at a certain pace and you decide to go faster. What do you do? Reach your leg out in front of you, increasing your range of motion? Well, no, because that's just increasing your over stride, breaking your momentum and creating a longer lever over which you have to get your body weight. Maybe leave your support foot on the ground longer to increase your range of motion? Well, no, because that means it will take longer to re-position your foot to enable you to change support and go into your next stride, as well as increasing your time on support. Increasing your stride length as a specific action just means increasing the distance between your feet, which brings no benefits.
GlennR Jun 2019 3:41pm, 18 Jun 2019 43,055 posts	Quote Pin GlennR Nonetheless, speed does equal cadence x stride length by definition, assuming stride length is properly identified. I agree completely that trying to increase speed by consciously increasing stride length is a waste of time and energy.
Sharkie Jun 2019 4:00pm, 18 Jun 2019 14,889 posts	Quote Pin Sharkie Stride length is naturally increased by getting stronger and having the ROM to produce the right shapes as any fule kno.
Sharkie Jun 2019 4:02pm, 18 Jun 2019 14,890 posts	Quote Pin Sharkie I've done the field (track) work AND the text book on this subject!