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Canute
Canute
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10:28pm, 4 Apr 2020
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It seems to me that we do not have clear answers about the risks from outdoor surfaces such as gate locks. It is accepted that virus can survive for 2-3 days or perhaps even longer on metal surfaces. It is probably true that surfaces that promote drying out of the droplets containing particles decrease virus survival. Many people were initially hopeful that sunlight would help decrease virus survival because past evidence indicates that UV radiation from the sun is an effective germicide in the environment. However, in the case of covid-19 we cannot rely on this. On the whole the evidence indicates that only very high energy UV (not appreciable in sunlight) kills the virus causing covid-19. The WHO does not recommend relying on sunlight to kill the virus.

The only widely accepted strategy is avoiding touching your face after contact with surfaces that might be contaminted and washing your hands when you come inside.

As we cannot completely exclude infection via a gate lock, it seems to me the only rational response is to make a plausible estimate the likelihood of contamination. In remote areas, I consider the risk (to me as a runner) is very small and rely simply on washing my hands as soon as I get home. However, I can understand a farmer with farmyard gates on a popular walking route being apprehensive. I therefore would not blame a famer who put up deviation signs in such circumstances, and think that the running community needs to respect the reasonable concerns of farmers.
larkim
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10:36pm, 4 Apr 2020
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The bottom line, as we were told from the start, is wash your hands frequently. Reasonable deviations to manage the risk are acceptable, and understandable. But the blanket paranoid approach of others focuses too much on identifying hazards (with a range of risk levels, from “unidentified, possible, remote” through to “plausible, likely@) and misses the fundamental issue of hand hygiene and distancing being the real ways to mitigate the vast majority of risk exposures.
HappyG(rrr)
HappyG(rrr)
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10:37pm, 4 Apr 2020
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Thank you Canute for your understanding and for your intelligent response, as always. :-) G
swittle
swittle
Apr 2020
10:39pm, 4 Apr 2020
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A thought: how effective might latex gloves, or similar, be against potential hazards outdoors?
HappyG(rrr)
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Larks, mate, it is not reasonable for farmers and workers to was their hands every 5 minutes. They sre working outdoors for hours at a time. Increased contact with the public and or shared surfaces is an unnecessary additional risk to their health. It can easily be eliminated by people avoiding the working areas of farms and other countryside businesses. Ther easiest way to indicate this is closure signs. G
HappyG(rrr)
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10:42pm, 4 Apr 2020
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Swits - not at all if you touch your face.
swittle
swittle
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10:41am, 5 Apr 2020
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Food for thought:
bbc.co.uk
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10:48am, 5 Apr 2020
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The health secretary said the vast majority were sticking to the guidelines, adding: "Let's not have a minority spoil it for everybody."

Surely that's where you then look to the police to enforce, rather than effectively putting the whole country in detention.
swittle
swittle
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10:52am, 5 Apr 2020
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A BBC news report earlier stated 3000 people in Brockwell Park, SE London: not the only well visited park, I suspect.

Is Mr Hancock asking for peer pressure to be deployed; or is it time to lock up public spaces?

I don't have the answers.
Derby Tup
Derby Tup
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Enjoy your exercise today. It might well be your last for a while sadly

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Covid-19 case numbers continue to rise exponentially in the UK.

It is even more crucial to do everything we can to slow the rate of onset of new cases. Nonetheless, exercise remains important for our health.

The relevant piece of the legislation in England is:

The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020

Restrictions on movement

6.—(1) During the emergency period, no person may leave the place where they are living without reasonable excuse.

(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1), a reasonable excuse includes the need—

(a) to obtain basic necessities, including food and medical supplies for those in the same household (including any pets or animals in the household) or for vulnerable persons and supplies for the essential upkeep, maintenance and functioning of the household, or the household of a vulnerable person, or to obtain money, including from any business listed in Part 3 of Schedule 2;

(b) to take exercise either alone or with other members of their household;

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That is an abbreviated version. Here is a link to a more comprehensive specification of section 6:
legislation.gov.uk

Similar regulations apply in Scotland, where section 8, (5) (b) states:
(b) to take exercise, either alone or with other members of their household.
In Northern Ireland, section 5 (2) (b) is the same:
(b) to take exercise either alone or with other members of their household;

In Wales, the regulations state that you can leave the house no more than once a day for exercise, The relevant section [section 8] states:

(b) to take exercise, no more than once a day, either alone or with other members of the household.

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Here is a link to the guidance regarding a reasonable excuse to leave the house, issued by the National Police Chiefs Council (for England):
college.police.uk
Note added 26th May: unfortunately the clear guidelines issued in April have been taken down and replaced by a more complex collection of documents.
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The fact that the government accepts the importance of exercise places a responsibility on us to exercise in a way that reduces our risk of becoming a clinical case rather than increasing our risk.

Here is a review of the factors that influence the relationship between exercise and function of the immune system
fetcheveryone.com/blog/13360/2020/3#blog403926
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