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rf_fozzy 4 Jul 11:10pm, 4 Jul 2020 10530 posts	0 rf_fozzy I'm fairly certain there's been some medical studies where it's been shown that if you don't believe a treatment is going to be effective, outcome is marginally worse. Perhaps. I'm sure there's something in 'bad science' about it.
swittle 4 Jul 11:17pm, 4 Jul 2020 65499 posts	0 swittle For consideration: the 'nocebo effect'. health.harvard.edu
Fragile Do Not Bend 4 Jul 11:23pm, 4 Jul 2020 6297 posts	0 Fragile Do Not Bend I was thinking more of being convinced that a treatment would have no effect rather than it having a negative effect, but I guess it’s sort of the same thing. Interesting!
Nellers 5 Jul 8:53am, 5 Jul 2020 36641 posts	0 Nellers The thing with the Placebo effect is that it simply doesn't have any effect on objective outcomes. You don't get studies showing that arthritic knees, for example, respond to sham surgery in terms of physical recovery but you might get reductions in reported pain. The main "placebo effect" is always in self-reported or subjective outcomes (reduced pain, self reported reduction in frequency of symptoms) and never in a truly measurable outcome (increased strength of a tendon, reduced bacterial levels, improved cardiac function). This suggests that the so called Placebo Effect is actually an artefact of the study (ie. subjects reporting what they think they should, or even convincing themselves that they do) and, whilst it's an absolutely valid method for a control arm of a study it's not something we should be using as an actual treatment for anything. So in terms of a negative version you could design a study where the subject was given an inert pill and told that it would do nothing and observe whether they report any effects.
Night-owl 5 Jul 12:19pm, 5 Jul 2020 34097 posts	0 Night-owl Formula one They drive round in big powerful motor cars race in countries over the world do the drivers use a car from each of these countries or do they take the same car with them across the globe. How does that work?
um 5 Jul 12:31pm, 5 Jul 2020 2868 posts	0 um 2 cars, 40+ tons of kit etc etc A lot of trucks, containers, air freight. And that's probably before the team and drivers social suites. And all the team and sponsors logo stuff. But yes, mainly shipped around the world in the 2 weeks between most races.
NDWDave 5 Jul 12:33pm, 5 Jul 2020 12173 posts	0 NDWDave They are flown around the world. I know this because the company I work at did the cargo insurance for one of the F1 teams
Night-owl 5 Jul 12:42pm, 5 Jul 2020 34098 posts	0 Night-owl Wow I did wonder, and thanks that's some task