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Oct 2013
4:58pm, 9 Oct 2013
2,982 posts
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Doctor K
All these twats on the news twisting and fucking turning and handwringing trying to justify why the elderly and in need get flying visits from their carers. FFS prisoners get more association time than many elderly people. Tell the truth, it's all about money and you don't actually give a shit.
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Oct 2013
8:24pm, 9 Oct 2013
3,899 posts
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Duchess
Trick or treating is a Scottish thing, the Americans took it and fed it back to us in an exaggerated form. I can live with Halloween stuff in October; the C stuff however,,,,,,
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Oct 2013
8:32pm, 9 Oct 2013
25,957 posts
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JenL
According to my Edinburgh friend, "guising" is the Scottish thing, and children are traditionally required to dress up and "sing for their supper (the treats)". The Americans probably did get the basic "trick or treat" idea from Scotland and it seems to have re-entered the UK, not just Scotland, on a "something for nothing" basis, which is a shame, I think..
My mother was from Yorkshire and she used to talk about "Mischief Night" and seems to have had more of an edge of extorion about it as local youngsters would knock on door demanding sweets and fruit in return for not doing harm or damage.
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Oct 2013
8:40pm, 9 Oct 2013
27,627 posts
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Velociraptor
Yes, when I was little we went "guising" and were expected to dress up and perform in return for a bit of fruit, some penny chews or some monkey nuts, never money. My own children used to like to go up to Scotland when they were little to go guising with the local kids where my parents live, and that was less than 15 years ago.
We DID cook and eat the flesh scooped out of the turnip 
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Oct 2013
8:45pm, 9 Oct 2013
25,958 posts
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JenL
It looks as if the demanding money with menaces aspect of trick or treat has more in common with the English than the Scottish versiion
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Oct 2013
8:48pm, 9 Oct 2013
10,866 posts
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northernslowcoach
Yup, mischief night was the night before hallowe'en where the naughty kids ruled
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Oct 2013
8:51pm, 9 Oct 2013
27,628 posts
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Velociraptor
Yes, neither money nor menaces featured in guising. The stuff we got wasn't really all that important, it was about the dressing up and perfecting our "turn" and seeing people's response to our silly songs and poems and jokes.
I think the standard of performance may have declined over the years, judging by how many people told my mother that they'd been impressed by my oldest daughter's recitation of the poem that begins, "Tracy Venables thinks she's great ... ".
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Oct 2013
9:29pm, 9 Oct 2013
321 posts
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jacdaw
I always thought mischief night was the night before bonfire night (4th November)? That seemed to be the case when I lived in South Yorkshire. Perhaps it's a regional / local thing. I hadn't heard of it at all in the north east.
Mostly it was not amusing "mischief"...
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Oct 2013
9:32pm, 9 Oct 2013
11,659 posts
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runner duck
we were obviously too well-behaved on the wirral
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Oct 2013
9:34pm, 9 Oct 2013
10,869 posts
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northernslowcoach
Oops, yes sorry
November the 4th (senior moment there )
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