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Feb 2020
9:54pm, 7 Feb 2020
12,281 posts
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JK *chameleon*
Trin - you say that being gay is acceptable as being vegetarian - however my current experience is that either attitudes are changing, or (more likely) a vocal minority are more emboldened to display quite abhorrent homophobia. There are more frequent reports of homophobic assaults, and it certainly doesn't feel as safe as it did say 5 years ago.
Growing up gay in the 80s and 90s, there were still few gay role models. Things are somewhat better now, but there is still an expectation that gays should act a certain way (I lose count of how many people say I don't seem gay, clearly need to mince more).
I'm no fan of Schofield, but another high profile homo isn't the worst thing in the world, although its depressing that it remains "newsworthy".
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Feb 2020
9:55pm, 7 Feb 2020
10,086 posts
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Little Nemo
I wonder about the wives in situations like these. Do they know or is it going to be a horrible shock?
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Feb 2020
9:56pm, 7 Feb 2020
45,195 posts
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Velociraptor
I agree with those who have already said that he's only spoken because he's on the brink of being outed in a flurry of tabloid headlines.
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Feb 2020
10:26pm, 7 Feb 2020
1,729 posts
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Trin
JK, I'm sorry that you feel like that. I'm just speaking as how I see it. There are gay people out in all walks of life, in sport, on TV, friends, neighbours, and wherever you go on the streets. It's not uncommon to see two men or two women being affectionate to each other these days, and no one bats an eyelid. I've been to a gay wedding here in Spain and it was as lovely as any wedding, it didn't matter that the people getting married were the same sex.
I see more abuse and intolerance toward people who are of a different shade/colour or speak a different language than to people who are openly gay. But then I'm not gay (or racist) so maybe that's why I don't see it.
I think acceptance of trans has still got a way to go though, obviously not speaking for myself as I have a lovely transgender daughter ❤️
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Feb 2020
10:58pm, 7 Feb 2020
11,516 posts
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D2
I cant imagine someone making such an announcement just to break down intolerance that seems too altruistic IMHO, however I do think he has not looked well for a while.
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Feb 2020
11:05pm, 7 Feb 2020
106 posts
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Running on the Spot
I am not really sure why he felt the need to "come out" in such a public way and not be more low profile and natural. But, I think it shows how things have moved on, that a lot of people are questioning why it is even a news item.
Good for him he can now be himself, but not a big story as far as I can see.
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Feb 2020
11:05pm, 7 Feb 2020
1,730 posts
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Trin
You're right D2, I haven't seen him for quite a while and was shocked to see how drawn he looks
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Feb 2020
7:15am, 8 Feb 2020
30,014 posts
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halfpint
I actually watched the video and his family have known for some time. I get the feeling he felt he wasn’t able to be genuine in his work. Talking to people who are sharing hugely personal experiences whilst hiding a huge part of himself from the world.
Trin I think that different parts of the country are more open and accepting than others. Kids in our schools still throw around ‘you’re so gay’ as an insult.
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Feb 2020
7:33am, 8 Feb 2020
4,277 posts
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Raemond
I suppose the very basic reason is that 'most people' assume others are straight, that heterosexuality is the default setting for humans, so if any particular person is NOT straight that's considered noteworthy.
For anyone who has had to hide or withhold it for fear of impact on their career or family, even if the threat of that impact has now lessened to a great extent, I can see how it would still be a difficult and significant thing to do.
I don't think it's really up to straight people to say whether or not it's still 'necessary', it could feel dangerously close (not that I mean to suggest that's what it is is here, at all) to saying 'why do they have to make such a big *thing* about it? Straight people don't go around doing that...' - but of course straight culture totally does. It's coded into so much of our lives that we don't even notice it.
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Feb 2020
7:50am, 8 Feb 2020
37,800 posts
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Purps
I've just posted this on my fb.
A couple of years ago I posted something about coming out and the hope that my children wouldn't 'come out' and just bring home their partner and say "mum this is my xfriend" and it being as simple as that, here have some cake.
I know he's a celeb, and possibly trying to beat the news from hounding him or posting stories etc.
But why can't we just go about and be like here's x with their partner and it not be a huge song and dance. Because while it's a song and dance it still leads people to feel the need to 'come out' and not just say this is my xfriend. And while celebs are feeling the need to 'admit it' it gives a stigma to it, and some people may feel unable to be their true self because its seen as a bigger thing than it actually is.
Who wants cake? 🍰🧁🍪🍩🥧
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Found: a Guardian article. Do not read, do not reply. Thank you.
Mar 2024