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Jan 2012
4:12pm, 31 Jan 2012
198 posts
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Devoted2Distance
Each to their own eh, Davie, don't blame yourself 
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Jan 2012
4:19pm, 31 Jan 2012
38,990 posts
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plodding hippo
Someone else can explain WAVA
Its an age grading thing comparing you to the rest of the athletes in the country at various distances
Now I blame Ms Radcliffe for my rubbish WAVA
She is too fast
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Jan 2012
4:20pm, 31 Jan 2012
24 posts
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themoabird
D2D - You should be happy with and proud of your marathon time. The marathon is a tough race. Aiming to fulfil one's potential - what on earth that actually means - is all well and good, but I know plenty of good runners (much, much better than people on this thread) who were never content with their times because they always thought they could have, should have gone faster. Strive to improve, of course, but the future is uncertain, and you may well already have run your quickest marathon, so enjoy it.
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Jan 2012
4:22pm, 31 Jan 2012
2,144 posts
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daviec
You realise that doesn't make sense.
Hopefully anyone reading the thread will understand the points being made and be able to make an informed choice.
Now I fear I may not be able to PB in my spring marathon this year as I've already bagged 3 x 22 mile runs and a couple of 20s since the turn of the year, and there was a 20 and a 22 at the end of December as well.
So how's the poetry these days?
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Jan 2012
4:24pm, 31 Jan 2012
46,140 posts
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Gobi
D2D - given you totally ignored my last post and given you are not really listening to anything critical I am not sure there is any point adding this but
1. the simple fact is you blew up before because you ran too hard in training
2. you got a pb this time because you were fresher
3. you are still badly under achieving at the marathon compared to your short distance ability.
As Davie says maybe if you listen to advise and train smarter you will get an even bigger PB.
Was that you sat on the floor in tears at Gloucester about 50 feet from the finish line ?
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Jan 2012
4:26pm, 31 Jan 2012
38,993 posts
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plodding hippo
I understand you perfectly Daviec
But I am too much of a wuss to target just one marathon and I can only deal with a long run if its a race
(im going for a lie down cos the thought of five, no seven 20-22 miles runs is making me feel funnoi)
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Jan 2012
4:28pm, 31 Jan 2012
38,994 posts
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plodding hippo
PS
I really hope you get that pb
you will have put in the work
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Jan 2012
4:28pm, 31 Jan 2012
199 posts
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Devoted2Distance
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Jan 2012
4:32pm, 31 Jan 2012
25 posts
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themoabird
Gobi
"3. you are still badly under achieving at the marathon compared to your short distance ability."
There's absolutely no way you can say that about D2D specifically. It's true that given 100 people running D2D's times for shorter distances most will probably be able to go faster over the marathon (given the right training, etc).
It does *not* follow that this will necessarily be true in the case of D2D. Even if you factor out the possibility of injury due to the harder training (and you can't factor that out), you cannot know how D2D's body will react at 20 miles given a faster pace. It's just unknowable until she's actually tried it. There are people who have to be much further below their aerobic/anaerobic threshold than other people to be able to tolerate those last six miles without falling to pieces.
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Jan 2012
4:36pm, 31 Jan 2012
2,650 posts
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paul the builder
You do know that an aerobic / anaerobic threshold (or any other 'marker' in your range of running paces) is not a *fixed* thing, right themoabird?? With "training" they can be moved. A long way.
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