Jan 2017
12:02pm, 31 Jan 2017
663 posts
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CharlieP
And if my gears weren't already ground enough, I've just had a Facebook invitation to the 'Sherwood Pines Forest 13.1'. Gah.
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Jan 2017
12:20pm, 31 Jan 2017
7,372 posts
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Duchess
Not arguing that one, fleecy, it was probably a bloody good bit of education. But I'll bet that your parents didn't insist that it was "a right".
For most of the people using that expression, it seems to be the "right" to go and sit on a beach for two weeks, drinking English lager and fried breakfasts but cheaply. "I want to have a cheap holiday" has become "I have a right to a cheap holiday, even if it means taking my kids out of school".
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Jan 2017
12:25pm, 31 Jan 2017
7,980 posts
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Joopsy
Or maybe just a right to a holiday Duchess, and that is the only way it is possible? For the record we go camping in this country, always in school holiday time. I couldnt afford a fortnight in Lanzarote in school holiday time, but then I actually think Id rather go to work than go to Lanzarote.
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Jan 2017
12:27pm, 31 Jan 2017
664 posts
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CharlieP
We very rarely went away on holidays when I was a child, because my parents thought our edumacation was importanter.
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Jan 2017
12:41pm, 31 Jan 2017
1,572 posts
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decorum
Parents who want snow days ~ but only want snow days which don't impact on their weekend plans
(And parents who want weekday snow days just after their children have been off school ill ~ because it's all about 'building their childhood' and `making memories', you know)
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Jan 2017
12:51pm, 31 Jan 2017
7,374 posts
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Duchess
And my parents were both teachers, so there was never any question of term-time holidays!
I can't accept that a "holiday" is a right; it's a nice thing, a bonus but it's not a "right" in the way that housing and food and education and healthcare and safety are.
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Jan 2017
12:58pm, 31 Jan 2017
32,897 posts
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Fleecing Icicles
I think it depends on the context. My dad has his 80th birthday this year and I think both my parents would really like us to come, but if school insist on fining me a shit ton of money then I can't take them all that way for just 3 days over half term. Ditto my sister's wedding which wasn't in school holidays. I think there should be more common sense prevailing.
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Jan 2017
1:07pm, 31 Jan 2017
1,840 posts
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Surrey Phil
Having done my stint on the school governors, the head teacher told us that he was frequently being asked by parents to take their child out of school as an elderly relative had recently passed away in Florida.
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Jan 2017
1:19pm, 31 Jan 2017
32,899 posts
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Fleecing Icicles
There are a lot of old people in Florida... But maybe they shouldn't police it, just say 'you can take up to x days without reason and any extra and you can come and talk to us'. The way they used to. The current system is stupid. I took ds1 to Wimbledon once, it was before the LA were fining people and the head was fine with it, when we turned up there were stacks of official school parties there. Nowadays the school would fine you for something which other schools call 'educational'.
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Jan 2017
1:41pm, 31 Jan 2017
3,018 posts
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Alice the Camel
I don't think parents should be fined for taking their kids out of school for holidays.
What used to tick me off mildly, as a teacher, was that during the summer term there was barely a week when the whole class was present and on odd occasions up to a quarter of the class was missing. Parents expected work to be set for their child to do on holiday, for me to find time to explain it to them before they went and then find more time to go over it with them when they returned. My opinion is that if a child is taken on a family holiday they should be doing family things, not sitting in a hotel room doing maths and English exercises.
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