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Oct 2021
4:21pm, 24 Oct 2021
32,075 posts
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Ocelot Spleens
Indeed. I think lots of runners, and coaches for that matter see quality as the faster paced efforts and sessions. If you ask me, for endurance people, a correctly paced recovery run at the right time is a quality session, a long run, again at the right distance, at the right time in your training is a piece of quality. A day of and a walk too, if that is what you're supposed to be doing. Endurance running is much more about the right run at the right time in your week/month/season, it is a discipline as much as anything, a skill, being organised is your number one thing. Why and when as much as what.
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Oct 2021
4:28pm, 24 Oct 2021
23,831 posts
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Serendippily
Discipline is key for me too. Parts of beachy i felt were quality because I ran them in controlled 45 min slots, as hard as I safely could. But it was less controlled than London because I nearly came a cropper on loose stones and rabbit holes and some of the hills destroyed me. There is a lot of difference between a strength or core session when I nail everything properly and feel it in all the right places and one where I skip through the motions 
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Oct 2021
4:46pm, 24 Oct 2021
32,081 posts
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Ocelot Spleens
Funnily enough, I have done a lot of strength and core lately, it has been good, but not what I had in mind, less often but longer, rather than shorter but most days.
My run today had the fastest mile I have run in 6 months, which sounds fine, but was downhill in places and was not what I set out to do, I meant just to do 3 x 10 with 90s walking, what I did was 10, 11.40 then 12.30, with variable recovery, I will have to watch that as it will cost me when I try to run quicker later, on the plus side I was quite happy.
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Oct 2021
5:01pm, 24 Oct 2021
18,763 posts
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Sharkie
I don't want the thread to get bogged down in semantics, however:
There's an argument that for a 'serious' runner/athlete every session should be quality. Am not keen on the word serious - take it as meaning people who want to improve as an athlete. So - for the endurance athlete who follows a purpose built training plan (for or by them) then it follows every session will have a point and therefore should be quality.
I think this is what Wriggles implies at the top of the page.
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Oct 2021
5:12pm, 24 Oct 2021
18,764 posts
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Sharkie
But not everyone has a coach or religiously follows a plan. Some Fetchies just like running for general fitness and mental well being- with amiable company if possible. They are not bothered about times and stats and all that. That is absolutely great and gorgeous but those Fetchies probably won't enjoy a thread like this.
The third version is (may she forgive me) someone like V-rap. Really good runner, still improving (cor!) does loads of exercise but prefers NOT to follow a plan and by her own admission is not a fan of speedwork or organised sessions. She runs loads, generally at easy or comfortably hard paces - and races fast. That suits some people and she is one of them.
But there's lots of coach free (or half coach free like Teebs!) Fetchies who are 'serious' but can get bogged down with targets and goals and mileage. I absolutely identify with them because - although all 'my' sessions are supposed to be quality - I am forever thinking more is better and am always in danger of being seduced by Best Week Ever type schemes.
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Oct 2021
5:20pm, 24 Oct 2021
18,765 posts
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Sharkie
Dipps writes: 'There is a lot of difference between a strength or core session when I nail everything properly and feel it in all the right places and one where I skip through the motions'
That's key isn't it?
Also, me today for instance - losing form by the end of my gym session and surprised that a move I would normally execute perfectly was so WOBBLY. But this added to the quality of the session because it demonstrated I was fatigued. I HAVE to be able to nail long/hard sessions because my athletic pretensions demand it!
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Oct 2021
5:21pm, 24 Oct 2021
18,766 posts
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Sharkie
told you there'd be a lot of words. My thread, my words.
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Oct 2021
5:55pm, 24 Oct 2021
23,834 posts
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Serendippily
I reckon I can afford to do up 75% running for pleasure. As long as I dont slouch. Less than that and I’ll stop enjoying the whole thing. But I want to see improvement too so that means serious sprints, serious effort in the remainder - consciously running hard. A tempo 5k or pyramid ‘middle’ of a longer run and a 2-3 mile interval session would ‘let’ me run 24 miles a week. So not all sessions are quality for me and I don’t mind that, in fact I think I would break or lose my mojo if it was all focused for me
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Oct 2021
6:07pm, 24 Oct 2021
18,767 posts
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Sharkie
That's exactly what I had in mind for the thread. NOT all sessions 'quality' (I said in my blog I'd be an exception and that I had</I> to make sure my rest days were quality rest not half arsed.
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Oct 2021
6:09pm, 24 Oct 2021
18,768 posts
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Sharkie
Pah didn't get the new italicising quite right. This stupid airbook keeps autocorrecting
*head off to change preferences*
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