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Feb 2010
5:22pm, 25 Feb 2010
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Boab
Tabzz, my advice would be to study the book and DVD and try to put things into practice. Keep wearing the flites if they are comfy, then report back in here or post up a video of you running. Or better still get a 1-2-1 with a coach local to you.
Feb 2010
5:23pm, 25 Feb 2010
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eL Bee!
Tabzz - get out of your mind that Pose=running on the forefoot - It doesn't!!!

The result of everything else coming together will mean that you DO support your Body Weight over the Ball of your foot directly under your body, but the actual activity that you need to concentrate on is removing your foot from the ground directly under your hip.

The longer you leave that foot on the floor - the further behind you it will end up - the later you'll recover it to 'under your hip', and the further forward the swing leg will travel.

Can you post a video clip of you running that we can take a look at?
Feb 2010
5:24pm, 25 Feb 2010
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eL Bee!
Boab - I'm trying to make sure my diary is clear to get to the Manchester clinic too. It's looking good at the moment :)
Feb 2010
5:27pm, 25 Feb 2010
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Hills of Death (HOD)
Tabzz there is nothing to beat practical learning
Feb 2010
5:27pm, 25 Feb 2010
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Tabzz
I want to start my running up again on Monday, but unsure whether to do it in the flites or the kayanos. I'll make a video clip of me in the flites either tomorrow, or Saturday. (this video will be at a time when I haven't really looked at pose, done any drills etc, so i'm sure there will be lots to improve on). Hopefully after I can get some comments on the video, I can decide how to carry on!
Feb 2010
5:35pm, 25 Feb 2010
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Hills of Death (HOD)
I'm a little confused if I need to do low heels but I need to heel to bum or in that direction.

Also the drill for foot stance you run your foot along the inside of calf/thigh
Feb 2010
5:57pm, 25 Feb 2010
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HOD,

There is no restriction in drills, you can lift/pull the foot 3 inches off the floor or you can lift/pull your foot all the way to your backside as you see me doing in my drills. Ideally one should practice at both extremes but the ultimate goal either way is to learn to perceive/feel the proper leg action which is the foot/ankel folding vertically toward your hip/gcm. As we RUN the height of our heel/foot will depend on the speed of our RUN. When going slower the foot will travel lower off the ground, when faster it will be higher up off the ground. The amount of effort to pull/lift is **always** just enough to break contact from the floor/ground. To me lifting the foot feels that same at all speeds. Is that clear?
Feb 2010
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Jhuff
HOD,

Yes...any and all discomfort should continue to become less and less until finally you will be running wondering how you are actually moving so fast and feeling so little effort :)
Feb 2010
6:08pm, 25 Feb 2010
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I have my moments aleady Jhuf :)

So landing on the ground is a natural thing as you think of the pull not the land. On the pull it should like hit what I (and you said)

But in the back of mind the foot should land flat with COG 'over' BOF
Feb 2010
6:13pm, 25 Feb 2010
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eL Bee!
HoD - the thing is to not conciously *think* about landing at all. Trust your muscles to do what they are supposed to. The more you try to control this aspect of your running, the more you will deviate from the ideal!

The thing we DO consciously control is the Pull!
The timing, the coordination and the direction. It's the only thing you actually need to actively concentrate on.
And the Pull is there to recover us to the Pose so that we can fall!!

And running is falling - so everything serves the fall!

About This Thread

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If you want to get people to watch you running - you need to video yourself using your mobile phone or digital camera. Side on, full length for a few strides, is sufficient. Use a cloud storage system as discussed here

http://www.fetcheveryone.com/viewtopic.php?id=47880
And share the file with a coach or coaches for constructive comment, either in private or on the thread if you dare.

Ok and article about POSE Method and running
tigwigs.force9.co.uk

Ians Article - worth a read if you are having trouble "getting it" - ianm1963.wordpress.com

As requested common acronyms used in this thread
GCM = General Centre of Mass

COG = Centre of Gravity
GCM = COG for the most part
BOF = Ball of foot - the feshy bit just under and slightly heelward of the big toe joint
ROM = Range of movement of the knees, or feet
BW = Body weight
ME = Muscular elasticity
COS = Change of support
GRF = Ground reaction force
FFS = It is not that hard dingbat

Pose drills as they should be done
http://www.fetcheveryone.com/article-view.php?id=306
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