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Feb 2015
11:16am, 28 Feb 2015
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FenlandRunner
That's a really good point GM. When should you revise target times for the sessions. I have to admit I'd planned on keeping the schedule as is until target race.
Feb 2015
12:55pm, 28 Feb 2015
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GimmeMedals
I wouldn't be inclined to change session paces very often, but I know that today's 5k time is a better reflection of my typical pace than last week's. As I've only just begun to follow the plan, I think I'd be taking the easy option if I leave the paces slower and there's not much point in doing that.
Feb 2015
1:14pm, 28 Feb 2015
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deslauriers
GM- Fantastic effort

Fen- I'm not sure but I think you should change if you are finding all sessions too "comfortable". I am gradually lowering tempo times and intervals but still find it difficult to reach the Furman LR times.
Feb 2015
2:16pm, 28 Feb 2015
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FenlandRunner
I don't think mentioning the word 'comfortable' is ever appropriate for me in relation to FIRST. But perhaps that is because I've spent the majority of the time training in the last eight years in the 'grey' comfortable zone.
Feb 2015
7:24pm, 28 Feb 2015
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HappyG(rrr)
You should change paces when you have done a 5K test like parkrun, and your times have gone down.

Lalli, really sorry to hear that. Hope it heals quickly. Would anyone else like to take over thread admin? Anyone who is doing Furman and happy to just look out for results and update the header/side bar every now and again?

Volunteers? Thanks, :-) G
Mar 2015
7:12pm, 1 Mar 2015
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deslauriers
Lalli- Get well soon.

Long run. Cut back to 8 miles to see if I can hit the Furman paces for longer than two miles:

8:34 8:17 8:19 8:06 7:26 7:13 7:04 7:14

Well....getting better I suppose. In my defence, it was very windy...
Mar 2015
7:22pm, 1 Mar 2015
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FenlandRunner
Third marathon of the year and missed sub-4 by a few seconds, but last bit I was storming at 7:06 average pace. Loved it, I fought the mud and the wind and very nearly won :)
Mar 2015
7:52pm, 1 Mar 2015
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GimmeMedals
The wind has a lot to answer for this weekend but think of the extra resistance training. You'll be even more ready to go sub 4 next time, FR.
That's quite an impressive increase in speed with each mile, des. The Furman App says to start slower and increase speed during the long run - you certainly did that!
Mar 2015
9:58am, 2 Mar 2015
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HappyG(rrr)
Nice progressive run there des - that's not a Furman run though, is it?

FR, congrats on another cracking 4 hour marathon. What's 6 seconds in the grand scheme of things?! :-) G
Mar 2015
6:01pm, 2 Mar 2015
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deslauriers
Fen- Well done! I can only admire anyone who manages three marathons in two months.

Happy- No, you're right. I should be hitting 7:10 ish in these Furman LRs. But, Saturdays I have two hours of martial arts and on Sundays, when I do my LR, I'm usually a little tired and it takes, well, 4 miles or so before I can reach the times. So, it appears I have inadvertently turned the LR into a progressive run!

About This Thread

Maintained by Lalli
This thread is for those who are currently doing or want to do Furman type training, to share tips, log progress etc.

What is Furman? Simply, it's "Run 3 days, do non-running exercise for 2-3 other days". And that's it really!

Some links:
Furman home page: www2.furman.edu
Furman mara plan (you will need to copy and paste the link into your browser as this is a download document): www.wu.ece.ufl.edu/marathon%20training-first%20marathon.pdf
Runners World published version (another downloadable): www.runnersworld.co.uk/general/the...marathon-schedule/2493.html
Furman core/strength exercises: beginners.runnersworld.com
Furman cross training examples: www2.furman.edu

The book (other booksellers are available...! ) amazon.co.uk

http://www.fetcheveryone.com/blog-view.php?id=10866 - Link to lunaman's blog of his experiences of 2 marathons based on Furman. Really good read based on real-world.

My own (HappyG) marathon experience off back of 6 month's very-Furman training. Yes, it was a Peeb! http://www.fetcheveryone.com/blog-view.php?id=13263&y=2011&m=4#240604

And here's a nifty little pace calculator courtesy of lunaman: fellrnr.com

Upcoming target races...

March 2016
HappyG(rrr) - 20 March - Alloa Half

April 2016
GeologyRocks - 17 April - Brighton Marathon

FenlandRunner - 24 April - VMLM

Furman focus, will bring rewards.

(Pls let me (Lalli) know if you want to be added or removed from the side panel).
Good luck everyone!
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