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Aug 2010
11:37am, 18 Aug 2010
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HappyG(rrr)
thanks rd and luna - my 10K from 2 years ago is deliberate choice. 1 year ago I was in good shape - my 10K pace was 6:09. This year I have had nearly 9 months of injury and lost 6 months of training. I'm just returning and I deliberately do NOT want to do any 100% effort races. So I am dictating my pace, not letting my pace dictate me, if you see what I mean!

I am *choosing* a 43 min 10K. This gives a 5K of about 20:30-21:00. I will *test* this on Saturday to see how "comfortable" this 5K time is. I will then spend about 1 month experimenting with Furman training based on these times to see how I cope. If it all goes OK then I will move into trying to drive my times down each month or two by upping the pace. I agree luna - they look brutal!

I would *like* to get back towards my pace from last year within 3 months, but I am aware that it may take much longer, or may in fact never come back. But the I do not want to be injured again, so I won't push it - as soon as I feel this injury returning or any new niggle, I'm going to back right off.

Thanks all. rd - treddie training (which I also plan to do over winter, instead of sliding around on snow and ice like I did last year) that's a whole other set of questions - what incline to make the paces accurate, etc. There was a great thread that said 3% (I think or was it 1.5%?) was equivalent to road running? :-)G
Aug 2010
11:41am, 18 Aug 2010
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runner duck
should have known you'd have it all thunk through, :)G :)

sounds eminently sensible :)

i'd really struggle to pick a pace at the moment as my running is all over the place. i was supposed to be following a furman plan for bristol half but it all went haywire trying to do sprint tri training and doing 4 (albeit fairly short) runs with clients at their pace. not sure how i'm going to rectify that...
Aug 2010
11:45am, 18 Aug 2010
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runner duck
pressed submit too soon!

i don't have much experience with treddies. i had read somewhere 1% so did that and plugged in my usual 'road' pace and thought i was going to die - such hard work!!! it was a very noisy rickety old treadmill tho so that may have been the problem. would love to get my own one instead.
Aug 2010
12:23pm, 18 Aug 2010
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HappyG(rrr)
You're right. It was 1.5% that gave similar results, not 3% :-O But I'm sure, yes, not all treadmills are the same. I'm not looking forward to running on treadmill, tbh! :-)G
Aug 2010
12:40pm, 18 Aug 2010
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runner duck
don't blame you. although for me nothing beats the boredom of the rowing machine, i HAVE to have an ipod on if doing more than 10mins rowing!
Aug 2010
1:04pm, 18 Aug 2010
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HappyG(rrr)
For cross train, I'm thinking about buying a boat. (I bet that sentence doesn't exist anywhere else in the whole of fetchland!). Seriously rd, what about kayaking or rowing as a cross train? :-)G
Aug 2010
1:20pm, 18 Aug 2010
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lunaman
I got told off in the gym the first time I tried to do butt-kicks and knee raise whatevers on the treadie before an interval session, after a good warm up of course.
They let me at it now, as long as I'm quiet about it! Do get some funny looks though.
Aug 2010
1:30pm, 18 Aug 2010
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runner duck
lol lunaman!

kayaking really appeals, especially as we are on the route of the devizes to westminster race - a challenge that appeals.

but it's a time thing, fitting in with a club or another person etc
Aug 2010
1:32pm, 18 Aug 2010
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HappyG(rrr)
I'm same rd - we back onto (nearly) the Glasgow to Edinburgh canal. Would be much less boring doing 2 hours up and down the canal than 2 hours on a machine in the gym! Lol at luna doing sprinters stretches on a treddie! :-)G
Aug 2010
1:36pm, 18 Aug 2010
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runner duck
just ever so slightly more appealing.

although lots of boat faffage - getting boat to and from canal etc - it's a half mile walk for us. do-able i suppose...

now you've got me thinking!!

anyone else having problems with fetch at the mo?

About This Thread

Maintained by Lalli
This thread is for those who are currently doing or want to do Furman type training, to share tips, log progress etc.

What is Furman? Simply, it's "Run 3 days, do non-running exercise for 2-3 other days". And that's it really!

Some links:
Furman home page: www2.furman.edu
Furman mara plan (you will need to copy and paste the link into your browser as this is a download document): www.wu.ece.ufl.edu/marathon%20training-first%20marathon.pdf
Runners World published version (another downloadable): www.runnersworld.co.uk/general/the...marathon-schedule/2493.html
Furman core/strength exercises: beginners.runnersworld.com
Furman cross training examples: www2.furman.edu

The book (other booksellers are available...! ) amazon.co.uk

http://www.fetcheveryone.com/blog-view.php?id=10866 - Link to lunaman's blog of his experiences of 2 marathons based on Furman. Really good read based on real-world.

My own (HappyG) marathon experience off back of 6 month's very-Furman training. Yes, it was a Peeb! http://www.fetcheveryone.com/blog-view.php?id=13263&y=2011&m=4#240604

And here's a nifty little pace calculator courtesy of lunaman: fellrnr.com

Upcoming target races...

March 2016
HappyG(rrr) - 20 March - Alloa Half

April 2016
GeologyRocks - 17 April - Brighton Marathon

FenlandRunner - 24 April - VMLM

Furman focus, will bring rewards.

(Pls let me (Lalli) know if you want to be added or removed from the side panel).
Good luck everyone!
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