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Coaching young athlete - training schedule for 10,000m and 5,000m

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mjoyeux Feb 2013 9:09pm, 19 Feb 2013 41 posts	Quote Pin mjoyeux Hi guys, I'm a UKA level 2 coach for endurance athletes but I've never done any training for young athletes. We've got a young lad at our club who has been running steadily with me for the last few months. I'm a little concerned about his unstructured training. He's 17 and has the potential to do really well. 5,000m - 16:49 10,000m - 36:01 1 mile - 5:00 Our club offers traing at an adult level up to around 6 miles, twice a week. What else can I advise him to do over the course of a normal week? I understand that he needs a mileage of around 30 tops with weight training and track work thrown in. What would you suggest as a plan for him? Many thanks!
Carlos Fandango Jnr Feb 2013 10:20pm, 19 Feb 2013 108 posts	Quote Pin Carlos Fandango Jnr Is there an England Athletics coaching mentor for your area? Alternatively ucoach.com might be a help unless anyone else has better ideas.
tom_craggs Feb 2013 12:43pm, 20 Feb 2013 2,212 posts	Quote Pin tom_craggs As above, I would seek advice and guidance from your area coaching mentor. At that age your planning shoukld be very tailored towards the induvidual athlete so I would not look towards gebneric advuice from forums etc. IMO he is still young to be running 10km, but as I said its a very induvidual thing. Have you done any long term athlete development CPD? I'd have a look at some of this.
Gobi Feb 2013 1:28pm, 20 Feb 2013 50,387 posts	Quote Pin Gobi I'm not posting in here due to not being comfortable that my views are well received in this country given the perceived wisdom that 17 is young and 10km is far. Next someone will write that 20 miles a week is a lot for a 17 year old :¬0
tom_craggs Feb 2013 1:57pm, 20 Feb 2013 2,213 posts	Quote Pin tom_craggs My post was not overly clear - it's not so much that 10km is far, more where the focus of racing (and therefore training) might be at that age - but as i said it might be for this induvidual might be fine - its a personal think. With many around this age I would still be focusing on getting some good 1500, mile, 3000m performances. Certainly the nmileage is not a problem per se.
santababy Feb 2013 1:59pm, 20 Feb 2013 68,438 posts	Quote Pin santababy Gobi, i hate to point this out, but you ARE posting in here
The Teaboy Feb 2013 2:02pm, 20 Feb 2013 5,232 posts	Quote Pin The Teaboy Has anyone else noticed the mileage that Kenyans and Ethiopians have chalked up by those ages?
Gobi Feb 2013 4:35pm, 20 Feb 2013 50,391 posts	Quote Pin Gobi Tt -Yes Santa - be quiet Tom - by 17 if he has done the years he may have peaked over 1500 so 5km is next so therefore you learn to race over 1500 and 10000 Damn it i posted again
mjoyeux Feb 2013 10:14pm, 20 Feb 2013 42 posts	Quote Pin mjoyeux I'll have to look into finding somewhere that can help him. think moving clubs would benefit him, especially if they have a dedicated youth section. He's certainly capable of doing up to around 10km. However, my concerns are his lack of endurance and ability for his body to cope with a demanding schedule. He's asking for advice and I've no idea what to tell him sometimes.
Gobi Feb 2013 9:50am, 21 Feb 2013 50,398 posts	Quote Pin Gobi Reality is that he needs to build base in a controlled manner like an adult(very controlled) Then add the speedwork make sure his long runs are restricted but long enough to be useful for 10 miles. Pace control and rest are crucial and make sure he listens to his body 17 is not young really.