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Transgender Athletes

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katypie Aug 2019 12:53pm, 16 Aug 2019 5,790 posts	Quote Pin katypie nytimes.com
Jovi Runner Aug 2019 12:56pm, 16 Aug 2019 6,548 posts	Quote Pin Jovi Runner As V'rap highlighted earlier - it is at best ill mannered for a man to tell a woman that the definition of female isn't important.
Gee-Rizzle Aug 2019 1:00pm, 16 Aug 2019 14 posts	Quote Pin Gee-Rizzle Jovi, in society the definition of female is extremely important, it can stop transgender individuals taking their own life, suffering unnecessary and illegal discrimination, and being isolated from normal society.
Jovi Runner Aug 2019 1:03pm, 16 Aug 2019 6,549 posts	Quote Pin Jovi Runner Re Issue A - I don't think anyone is saying genuine transgender people pose a risk to females in unisex toilets rather that the idea that anyone that says they are a woman are a woman could perhaps be open to abuse in that it provides an opportunity for those less well inentioned to gain access. If you don't think this happens I had two BBC news items yesterday flash up on my timeline about two instancs of that very thing happening in the last week.
FreshStart Aug 2019 1:04pm, 16 Aug 2019 3,516 posts	Quote Pin FreshStart ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Velociraptor Aug 2019 1:05pm, 16 Aug 2019 42,783 posts	Quote Pin Velociraptor That's not quite what I said was ill-mannered
Jovi Runner Aug 2019 1:06pm, 16 Aug 2019 6,550 posts	Quote Pin Jovi Runner Ge-Rizzle - the trans suicide rate myth has been debunked on numerous occassions. If you can point me to the statistics to back up what you say please do. No one is isolating anyone - trans gender athletes are free to particiapte in sport - no one is sying they aren't. Again, the issue is whether they have an unfair advantage when competing in female sport. I feel isolated and discrimnated by allowing male born athletes into female sports - am I not allowed to voice that or are you saying only trans woman are discriminated against and natal women never are?
Gee-Rizzle Aug 2019 1:07pm, 16 Aug 2019 15 posts	Quote Pin Gee-Rizzle For me this is the biggest issue with defining transgender individuals as anything other than their actual gender: stonewall.org.uk
Jovi Runner Aug 2019 1:07pm, 16 Aug 2019 6,551 posts	Quote Pin Jovi Runner Apologies V'rap- I minsunderstood. I do think it is a little presumptious of men to say women just have to accept anyone who says they are a woman as a fact because they say they are.
FreshStart Aug 2019 1:08pm, 16 Aug 2019 3,517 posts	Quote Pin FreshStart If you need access to academic journals check out twitter.com