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Aug 2021
9:00am, 17 Aug 2021
52,049 posts
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alpenrose
That's very interesting cackleberry, I'm going to start collecting from today. 
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Aug 2021
9:14am, 17 Aug 2021
27,182 posts
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EvilPixie
great - I will start collecting too!
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Aug 2021
9:36am, 17 Aug 2021
77,985 posts
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Hanneke
Run free I have bern highly sceptical of recycling since I saw the Westminster Council lorry dumping both the black and green bins together into one lorry in 1995... And no, this was NOT a half/half lorry!!!!
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Aug 2021
9:37am, 17 Aug 2021
77,986 posts
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Hanneke
I therefore make sure I have virtually nothing that needs either recycling or going to landfill. So little in fact that the Herefordshire Council binmen often don't empty my massive bins because there is half a binliner worth once a month, at the bottom of the bin.
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Aug 2021
11:42am, 17 Aug 2021
7,903 posts
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TeeBee
I agree Hanneke - I look at people's recycling boxes around here and think the 'reduce' and 'reuse' parts of the 'reduce, reuse, recycle - in that order' mantra is pretty much forgotten by most.
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Aug 2021
11:44am, 17 Aug 2021
27,197 posts
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EvilPixie
the influx in online ordering and food/recipe boxes has increased the cardboard usage
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Aug 2021
1:23pm, 17 Aug 2021
4,829 posts
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run free
Totally agree with you Hanneke. There is far too much focus on Recycle (which have said in the Zero Waste thread). In the 90s, my friend's father used to manage a London waste management facility and told me the "recycle bins" were merely to help them organise the landfill!
In 2008, a "waste event" I attended in London said London had to ship over 50% of "recyclables" to China which increased even more (believe it was quoted on the BBC to be about 90%) by the time China said no more in 2018.
We (the UK) then moved our plastic "recyclables" to Malaysia until 2019 when they told us we had to take it back. We are still exporting a lot of our "recyclables" to places like India, Turkey, Indonesia, and other places that have poor waste management facilities. However recently (Jul 2021) Turkey has banned plastic imports. My guess is that a lot of our plastics is being incinerated now in our "waste to energy" systems.
We pay Sweden to take our waste which they burn. Sweden calls this "recycling" It now looks like the UK is saying incineration is recycling Incineration is a destruction of a material.
The concept of single-use is a poor use of a resource and our attempts to recycle is currently a corrupt and broken system.
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Aug 2021
1:25pm, 17 Aug 2021
7,904 posts
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TeeBee
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Aug 2021
1:29pm, 17 Aug 2021
2,154 posts
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cackleberry
Tricking the consumer doesn't help.
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Aug 2021
2:20pm, 17 Aug 2021
27,204 posts
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EvilPixie
I think it would be great to see events start up that return us to our grandparents style of living and "make do and mend"
the idea of saving up for a better quality garment that will last more than 1 wash
or making our own stuff out of what we already have
and repairing rather than tipping
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