Dec 2021
11:15am, 4 Dec 2021
2,875 posts
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JCB
Today’s puzzle annoys me. Opponent doesn’t play optimal moves. Basically a blunder so there’s a mate in 2.
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Dec 2021
11:37am, 4 Dec 2021
11,276 posts
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jda
I think so long as you see the winning move, it's fine that the opponent plays "suboptimally". After all, in a lost position, every move loses, postponing the inevitable by a bit isn't necessarily better than playing something else that requires a precise response.
I'm more annoyed by the cases where I play a winning move, only to find that there was a better one and therefore I was "wrong". These are very rare though.
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Dec 2021
12:25pm, 4 Dec 2021
27,220 posts
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JulesR
I had this yesterday - I win a queen for a rook, but when I took the queen I got the big red X, as I could have win a whole queen by a diversion check on opp’s king guarding their queen.
In my mind queen for rook is winning, but as James says, a full queen up is better. But both are winning.
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Dec 2021
2:37am, 5 Dec 2021
2,876 posts
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JCB
True regarding winning and winningest.
Emanuel Lasker: “When you see a good move, look for a better one”
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Dec 2021
8:13am, 5 Dec 2021
11,286 posts
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jda
Today being another case in point. There is a forced mate in 6 but in a real game I’m sure I’d prefer the alternative move with a +10 evaluation that doesn’t involve such a big sacrifice!
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Dec 2021
8:40am, 5 Dec 2021
35,854 posts
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SPR
If it's forced, why would you prefer something else if you saw the forcing line?
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Dec 2021
11:30am, 5 Dec 2021
2,882 posts
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JCB
It’s not too obvious!
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Dec 2021
11:35am, 5 Dec 2021
11,287 posts
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jda
Because there’s less risk that I might have overlooked something. Right at the highest level, players will sometimes choose a slightly inferior line that simplifies in their favour and I don’t think that’s a bad habit.
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Dec 2021
11:43am, 5 Dec 2021
35,855 posts
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SPR
Fair enough. I've miscalculated moves previously when I had something I thought was forcing (think there was one game against JCB, lol!).
TBH I don't think I'd have seen that in a game. Would be a nice one to play though.
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Dec 2021
11:46am, 5 Dec 2021
2,887 posts
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JCB
Yes, given it’s a puzzle it’s something to look for, otherwise not foremost in the mind.
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