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25 May
8:45pm, 25 May 2025
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Pothunter
It’s my weekend for watching non-F1 motorsport - this time the Indy 500.

Lots of action but really hard to follow. It’s a bit like watching track cycling where you’re never really sure who is who and what lap anyone is on! Pit stops are mad too - one guy came sliding in and took out half his team. One mechanic was injured but fortunately able to walk himself to a gurney.
25 May
9:01pm, 25 May 2025
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LanaD
Love watching IndyCar...usually more entertaining than f1 and today (in my opinion) is definitely that!

Certainly have to concentrate at times on the oval courses, but that’s part of the fun...pit lane incidents today usually aren’t this mad!
25 May
9:14pm, 25 May 2025
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HappyG(rrr)
Enjoyed Monaco, bit of jeopardy with Verstappen at front with a second stop still to take. And the crazy team work backing cars up to let team mate get a stop without losing places. Entertaining but not really racing. Happy for Norris to get a Monaco win to his name. :-) G
25 May
10:31pm, 25 May 2025
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larkim
I watched Indy and found it the dullest thing imaginable. Mistakes so amateur I couldn't believe I was watching them, zero overtaking despite that being just about the whole appeal of the sport and a finish so dull and uninteresting without even the visual appeal of seeing a leading car cross the finish line first.

I do appreciate the skill, but lordy that was dull. Give me Monaco 2024 any day of the week!!
26 May
1:16pm, 26 May 2025
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DaveG
For once I enjoyed a dry Monaco, which doesn't happen often. I thought the two stops worked well as it brought strategy into play a lot - without it that race would have been a simple procession. It's nice to watch it not knowing how the tactics would play out. I thought Haas got the tactics spot on early one, with Bearman looking good for 9th and Ocon 8th when they both stopped. But, tactics elsewhere which ignored them meant Bearman didn't progress.

I don't think the slow driving was necessarily due to the two stops. Teams could have done that in any year with a one-stop strategy as it was just buying a free pit stop. As much as I liked that, it did take away from the point of Monaco being a high action sprint - the front 4 were pushing but no-one else was really.

A simple rule change for Monaco could be to bring in something like the 107% rule from qualifying - if you weren't with a certain time on the previous lap, someone had DRS on you that lap and you were never within 2 seconds of a car in front, then you get a flag when you cross the start/finish line. Get two of those flags within 3 laps and you get a blue flag to let the car behind past.

This would need to be set at 'within a certain time' which is clearly slowing, not tyre management or performance. They were talking on Channel 4 about drivers needing confidence in what other drivers were doing and intentionally backing up cars when there is no opportunity to overtake means there is potentially dangerous unpredictability.
26 May
2:56pm, 26 May 2025
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minardi
I love that George made Alex buy him dinner to make up for holding him up/frustrating him enough to earn a drive through 😆
31 May
8:03am, 31 May 2025
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The Mussile
I've thought for a long time that changing tyres under safety cars and red flags should not count as one of the mandatory stops. That would mean no safety issue but also means positions are settled by the drivers/teams and not whether Alonso's engine bins it on lap 25 or 45
31 May
8:24am, 31 May 2025
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larkim
It still changes the dynamic though if driver a has built a gap or similar and then the field is compressed again because of a sc or red flag. There's no perfect answer to this.
1 Jun
8:24pm, 1 Jun 2025
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minardi
Well, that was an interesting end. Poor Max 🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 Jun
8:27pm, 1 Jun 2025
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larkim
I can understand the red mist; drove an exceptional race to that point, whilst clearly feeling his car was "broken" and not working. Then the SC screws his ability to fight with the hard tyre. Then he has a massive tank slapper. Then gets bumped by Charles. Then bumped by Russell. Then told to give the place back to Russell when even I don't think he should have done.

But driving at another car on purpose needs more than a 10s pen and 3 points on his licence.

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