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Project Joker

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Just Jim Jun 2020 10:39pm, 1 Jun 2020 149 posts	Quote Pin Just Jim Second week, fourth ace. How important is it to go at the correct pace? My threshold pace should be 7.41/km but I usually end up about 7.15, going reasonably easily. My long run should be 8.48 but I find it hard to go much over 8.15 without walking for parts of it. The interval pace of 2.48 for 400m seems reasonable. Jim
Fenland Flier Jun 2020 11:34pm, 1 Jun 2020 1,739 posts	Quote Pin Fenland Flier Jim, it sounds to me like the 5k time you entered is a bit soft if you find the pacing too easy.
Ness Jun 2020 7:35am, 2 Jun 2020 11,666 posts	Quote Pin Ness Hello 👋.... I’ve just started project joker with an attempt at a threshold run this morning. Was wondering, what category is the best to use for it in my training log? I’ve put it as a “tempo run” for now because I couldn’t see a threshold category. Is that right?
Rrunner Jun 2020 7:52am, 2 Jun 2020 458 posts	Quote Pin Rrunner Hi Ness. I've always put my PJ threshold runs down as tempo. I'd say they are probably the same thing...
Rrunner Jun 2020 7:56am, 2 Jun 2020 459 posts	Quote Pin Rrunner Jim, as FF suggests is your 5k time a recent effort? The other thing to think about is easy pace is meant to be really easy - as you've found it can be to the point of nearly walking. Personally I use these as a guide and go off my perceived effort too. So my feeling easy will be quicker than the PJ easy pace but it's still an easy run.
Fenland Flier Jun 2020 10:47am, 2 Jun 2020 1,740 posts	Quote Pin Fenland Flier That used to confuse me too Ness, like RR I use tempo too. In fact I've just done a tempo run
Vancouver Jogger Jun 2020 11:02am, 2 Jun 2020 4,848 posts	Quote Pin Vancouver Jogger I've always used 'tempo'. It does seem a bit strange either to not have a 'threshold' category or to call it a 'tempo' run in PJ.
Just Jim Jun 2020 6:47pm, 2 Jun 2020 150 posts	Quote Pin Just Jim I would say that the time I entered was a "normal" 5k, although not my fastest.
Fenland Flier Jun 2020 10:25pm, 4 Jun 2020 1,743 posts	Quote Pin Fenland Flier I'll try have a look at you training over the weekend Jim, see if anything jumps out. My 5th interval session done this morning. Almost halfway and feeling a bit stronger
The Scribbler Jun 2020 8:40am, 5 Jun 2020 4,941 posts	Quote Pin The Scribbler Think I'll have to declare jokers for all my sessions this week. I went out in the rain on Wednesday morning and was generally grumpy, out of sorts and cold, so it barely counts as a run. I've had niggly calves too, and yesterday I could feel them pull when I got out of my chair, so think it's a good idea to rest, stretch and roll today. Maybe see how I feel on Sat/Sun.