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Hadd's Approach To Distance Running

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Sloggerian Oct 2009 7:53pm, 16 Oct 2009 1,174 posts	Quote Pin Sloggerian Anyway, moving back to the subject in hand Just got out from an hour wrestling with my HR and I seem to be suffering from drift in reverse! For the first 10 mins I couldn't get it below 70% no matter how slow I trotted, although I didn't go as far as to walk. Next 10 mins had to go as slow as 13:40min/miles in places to keep to 70% From then on though it was more of a case of trying to get the HR up and was doing close to 8min/miles by the end to try and get up to 70%. Seems the further I went, the greater pace I ha to do to maintain the same HR... I'm sure it will make sense eventually
Belper Bear Oct 2009 7:55pm, 16 Oct 2009 1,843 posts	Quote Pin Belper Bear Slog: Are you sure the battery in your HRM strap isn't buggered? I had a similar experience a few months ago and a change of battery sorted it out immediately.
Sloggerian Oct 2009 7:57pm, 16 Oct 2009 1,176 posts	Quote Pin Sloggerian Thanks BB but it's practically brand new
Sloggerian Oct 2009 7:58pm, 16 Oct 2009 1,177 posts	Quote Pin Sloggerian although now that you've said that I wonder if I need to wet it more before I first put it on to increase the efficiency of the contacts
Belper Bear Oct 2009 7:58pm, 16 Oct 2009 1,845 posts	Quote Pin Belper Bear So was mine - less than 3 months but the battery was still buggered. Maybe Amazon had had it on the shelf a whille;-)
Sloggerian Oct 2009 7:59pm, 16 Oct 2009 1,178 posts	Quote Pin Sloggerian ok - fair enough - might give it a try
Oct 2009 8:02pm, 16 Oct 2009 328 posts	Quote Pin I would say it's a technical issue too, that or you're superhuman lol Goes a little beyond just initial warmup before performance improving lol
chirunner Oct 2009 8:13pm, 16 Oct 2009 610 posts	Quote Pin chirunner I am still not 100% sure on exact HRs apart from having the understanding that a wider range of HRs is better so I think I will replicate last weekend longer one saturday (13-15 miles) at 140bpm, medium one sunday (10 miles) 120bpm max that is as slow as 9-9.15 pace. I think I need to find something that engages me and stick to some consistency rather than chopping and changing. If I can get 25 miles done each weekend and another 15 during the week I can get back up to a steady 40 miles that I need as a minimum to get around the marathon.
jonp Oct 2009 8:17pm, 16 Oct 2009 3,138 posts	Quote Pin jonp I'm guessing the real benefit of Hadd base training approach is not the base training itself, but the enabler, in that after you finish your short/medium/longer (delete depending upon athlete) base period it will enable you to make top end training gains using higher tempo workouts. Then when your training starts to equalise again, you go back to the bottom of your tube and squeeze again (only this time you will be a bit higher up the tube than last time you started). Repeat all that and eventually (years even) you'll have rolled your whole tube up and be working your max. The questions/discussions/arguments arise, I guess over whether you can mix base with other training types at the same time.
chirunner Oct 2009 8:24pm, 16 Oct 2009 611 posts	Quote Pin chirunner I wonder if anyone else has a frustration over this low HR running in terms of the impact on weight loss. As hadd points out in the article you may be buring x numbers of calories in a 10 mile run but if you are running very efficiently at lower HRs and predominantly burning fat you are using a very efficient fuel source and therefore not having for me much potential weight loss. My single main reason for abandoning this more efficient way of running was that I simply could be running up to 50 miles a week and not losing an ounce of weight. The second I moved most of my running into the tempo area of 150-160 bpm eg HM + pace the weight flew off. Very frustrating.