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Coronavirus **support** thread

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Jul 2020
10:40am, 13 Jul 2020
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geordiegirl
This article suggests that deficiency /insufficient vitamin D was found in some covid patients.

bhf.org.uk
Jul 2020
10:43am, 13 Jul 2020
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geordiegirl
I’m not saying v-D would save people from covid but much like a healthier lifestyle it could offer some additional support.
Jul 2020
11:39am, 13 Jul 2020
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Northern Exile
"Could" being the operative word methinks....
Jul 2020
12:16pm, 13 Jul 2020
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Night-owl
We do run out of Vitamin D from time to time. Customer demand I expect
Jul 2020
12:52pm, 13 Jul 2020
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larkim
Strangely enough my wife was getting us all to take VitD supplements this winter as a generall overall health boost to supplement the lack of sunlight. Seemed logical to a degree, and risk free.

Spedding's book (Stop Feeding Us Lies) I found reasonably compelling in parts (notably those parts which allowed me to eat what I want!), but there's a nagging doubt that he is just a crazed loon too.

Though there's no doubt in my mind that a healthier diet is definitely something which supports overall wellbeing and health. A little bit of everything in moderation seems a sensibly enough cautious approach.

On masks, I see Bojo is going public with recommending them in shops in England now.

It would be nice at least once for the UK's PM to lead the (right) way in an approach to C19 rather than just follow the trends.
Jul 2020
1:03pm, 13 Jul 2020
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Grast_girl
I would agree that it would be vit D status before contracting Covid that is likely the benefit.

The links to the research in the bhf article don't lead anywhere now, so I wonder whether it has been retracted or published elsewhere. The biggest issue for much of this research is when their vit D level was measured. If it's after they've already been infected, then vit D may well be depleted because they're ill. Most other studies have had to look at historical vit D levels which may not reflect the situation when the patients contracted covid-19. It's very difficult.
Jul 2020
1:24pm, 13 Jul 2020
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Little Miss Happy
I think that quite a lot of the UK population would have low Vit D levels coming out of the winter.

Forest - will their travel insurance not cover it or the holiday company allow them to transfer the holiday to a different date? My neighbour has just done the latter with an August package holiday as despite being able to go they did not feel comfortable with the risk.
Jul 2020
1:26pm, 13 Jul 2020
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Non-runner
I was interested to find out that vitamin D isn’t a vitamin at all but a hormone.
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1:30pm, 13 Jul 2020
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geordiegirl
V-D was a big issue in Oman and most people were prescribed V-D, bizarrely when I had my medical my levels were ok, the thinking was despite being in a very hot country Omanies and indeed a lot of ex-pats avoided the sunshine. One friend started to get up and have her morning brew in the garden at 6.30 and her levels improved without needing supplements. I still sat outside a lot of the day even if it was hot - I am definitely a cactus.

I then read about Spanish flu and that they found people who were allowed fresh air and sunshine during recovery did better than those who were kept indoors, hence reading the article I picked up on the V-D comment.
jda
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2:14pm, 13 Jul 2020
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jda
Fresh air has been associated with better outcomes for a long time, and I'm definitely in favour of better public health (eg diet and exercise) generally. But there is a wealth of readily accessible authoritative information about the epidemic, and someone who persists in claiming that it just went away is either delusional, dishonest, wilfully ignorant or just too stupid to be taken seriously. How can the reader be expected to believe anything else they say, if they can say that?

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There is a separate discussion thread for debating the grander scheme of things here: fetcheveryone.com/forum/coronavirus-discussion-thread-61609

Go there if you want to talk about whether it's real, whether the government are trying to control us, etc, etc.

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information, discussion and support about the unfolding Covid-19 outbreak
NO politics please
And above all please be kind and respect others points of view and concerns.

microbiologists view byFlatlander
Science of coronavirus
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/3#blog403867
coronavirus testing by Flatlander
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/4#blog405255

information for ashtma sufferers
asthma.org.uk

information for pregnancy
rcog.org.uk

imperial article
imperial.ac.uk
imperial.ac.uk

Government advice gov.uk

advice for those with RA and autoinmmune diseases
nras.org.uk

diabetes advice
diabetes.org.uk

explaination of the maths of the growth of the epidemic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg&fbclid=IwAR3exg0rG_Bz3gPqjXY3rcFajqVSk-cOK5lQGVkYcuzoMOdNEp7VTgH-Kac&app=desktop


tips to help you cope
drive.google.com

Advice to stay at home
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk

planning for and what to do if you are ill
covid-at-home.info
support for self isolates
nhsvolunteerresponders.org.uk

Ft coronavirus tracker
ft.com

A good article about dealing with the feelings of grief that the current situation has given us hbr.org

advice on self isolation for indivuals with symptoms or and their household
gov.uk

seven day rolling averages
ourworldindata.org

A sustainable exit strategy document
institute.global

susceptibility to covid by flatlander
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/5#blog406151

bromage article
erinbromage.com

government guidelines 11th may for England(NI, Scotland and Wales linked at the bottom of article)
gov.uk

breathing practice
physiotherapyforbpd.org.uk

lancet articles
thelancet.com

help with mask anxiety
psychologytoday.com

tracker
travellingtabby.com
theguardian.com
video of droplet dispersal
https://youtu.be/DNeYfUTA11s
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