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postieboy Oct 2017 2:03pm, 12 Oct 2017 4,851 posts	Quote Pin postieboy Train faster, race faster works, make it a gradual progression as a word of cautioned. Nothing happens in this game overnight.
paul a Oct 2017 2:08pm, 12 Oct 2017 11,040 posts	Quote Pin paul a If there is a difference between PMP and MP then there is a disconnect (perhaps from an unreliable conversion from a shorter distance). MP is all that matters.
Curly45 Oct 2017 2:09pm, 12 Oct 2017 3,135 posts	Quote Pin Curly45 waves at Dr. Dan Great write up. I was going to mention your high levels of cycling mileage as well. Interesting about carb levels after parkrun through to Sunday. I have treat of a piece of cake (homemade obviously) after Saturday races... maybe something I should think about and move my cake treat to after Sun long run. You can keep carb loading for A races though
SPR Oct 2017 2:14pm, 12 Oct 2017 25,077 posts	Quote Pin SPR Yeah it's never as simple as train faster as anyone can train faster.
Fenland (Fenners) Runner Oct 2017 2:19pm, 12 Oct 2017 13,759 posts	Quote Pin Fenland (Fenners) Runner FIRST may be lower mileage but it ain't low in my view. And not every can train faster as illustrated by the volume of injuries .
DrDan Oct 2017 2:34pm, 12 Oct 2017 1,152 posts	Quote Pin DrDan Hi Curly My levels of cycling are far from high ... I'm just a bike commuter. Regular mileage but rarely more than 10 miles in a day. Any half serious cyclist will trump my weekly mileage every Sunday morning. Felnand - yes, it's not low, especially when total training volume (inc x-training) and intensity and thrown into the mix. WW - the "science stuff" just boils down to how you train and what you eat. That's just as important to 3-3:45 runners as it is to elites.
Daz Love Oct 2017 2:37pm, 12 Oct 2017 768 posts	Quote Pin Daz Love Looking at that FIRST plan, its probably not too far away from what I done in my 1st marathon. I run avg 7:15 pace on the day but just checked my training log and my long runs of the campaign (15+ miles) were as follows:- 15 @ 7:39 17 @ 7:28 15 @ 7:34 18 @ 7:37 18 @ 7:28 15 @ 7:27 20 @ 7:28 15 @ 7:14 18 @ 7:22 (final run 2 and half weeks out)
Joe Hawk Oct 2017 5:56pm, 12 Oct 2017 5,248 posts	Quote Pin Joe Hawk Fenland/ Dr Dan - Anything under 50mpw is low mileage for a marathon
Fenland (Fenners) Runner Oct 2017 6:25pm, 12 Oct 2017 13,760 posts	Quote Pin Fenland (Fenners) Runner LOL Joe, some people hit and exceed their targets on less than forty!
Joe Hawk Oct 2017 6:31pm, 12 Oct 2017 5,249 posts	Quote Pin Joe Hawk Their targets/expectations maybe but probably not their capabilities. Paul a - I always take MP as current marathon pace (achieved recently) and PMP as target marathon pace. So at the beginning of say a 12 week programme there is quite a difference

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For those who want to go sub 3.15 in a marathon and/or those that have already done it and want to give advice. Share your journey or help someone else's here.

2025 targets:

Chicago 12 Oct: Mark
Abingdon 19 Oct: Clare
York 19 Oct: PJH

2025 achievers:
Charles 3:07 @ Ghent
Mark 3:07 @ Christchurch

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