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So who won the tour from 1999 to 2005

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larkim Jul 2018 6:22pm, 12 Jul 2018 5,252 posts	Quote Pin larkim That would be my only reservation about LA in that he hasn't quite cleared that remorse hurdle. But if he did, then I can't see why he shouldn't be a team manager.
Velociraptor Jul 2018 6:49pm, 12 Jul 2018 38,610 posts	Quote Pin Velociraptor ^-^ I don't think I have much to add. Which never stopped me before It's long been observed that elite endurance athletes (not only cyclists) are more likely to be diagnosed as having asthma. There are factors in their sports which can make their airways hyperreactive (including, but not necessarily limited to, greater exposure to environmental allergens and pollutants) AND someone with a minor degree of bronchial hyperreactivity is more likely to become aware of it on exertion. (I was surprised to discover a few years ago that I show slight evidence of asthma on spirometry. I have no wheeze at all except when I run hard in cold weather or, on a couple of occasions in my lifetime, for a few weeks after a respiratory infection. If I was doing a race that mattered to me on a cold dry day I'd take a couple of puffs of salbutamol beforehand. If I didn't run and hadn't done a test as part of a course in learning to record spirometry, I'd never know.) I remain convinced that there's no reason to believe that overdosing on salbutamol is performance enhancing and I'm glad Froome is off the hook on this occasion.
larkim Jul 2018 7:16pm, 12 Jul 2018 5,254 posts	Quote Pin larkim That experience of mild asthma showing up seems to me to be exactly the sort of thing that an elite would see and the docs say “I can resolve that for you within the rules - would you like that resolving?” To which any sensible athlete would say “Yes”. And with the advancement of teams understanding of medical conditions etc, testing for mild asthma would seem to me to be something that would be worth doing on a routine basis for all elite athletes.
Derby Tup Jul 2018 7:16pm, 12 Jul 2018 26,313 posts	Quote Pin Derby Tup Velo, where do stand on the ‘asthmatics were the sickly kids at school who couldn’t do sports so why are they winning marathons or bike races’ argument please?
Velociraptor Jul 2018 7:28pm, 12 Jul 2018 38,613 posts	Quote Pin Velociraptor That hasn't been the case for decades, DT. Certainly since before the current generation of pro cyclists were at school. Asthma treatment is safe, effective and accessible and parents and children are generally motivated to use it, and it's exceptional for a young person's asthma to be so brittle that they can't do sport and are ill a lot. And asthma can develop at any age. It's not unusual for exercise-induced asthma to start in adolescence.
Derby Tup Jul 2018 8:20pm, 12 Jul 2018 26,315 posts	Quote Pin Derby Tup My God I feel old What about scurvy and rickets Velo?
Velociraptor Jul 2018 8:28pm, 12 Jul 2018 38,614 posts	Quote Pin Velociraptor Scurvy and rickets aren't generally considered performance-enhancing, DT Never seen full-blown scurvy. Or rickets, although we're always being told Rickets Is Coming Back and biochemical vitamin D insufficiency is common.
Chrisull Aug 2018 10:46pm, 30 Aug 2018 13,200 posts	Quote Pin Chrisull I'm back here... did you miss me larks? Tyler Hamilton's latest Q+A (him of "The secret race") velonews.com If some of those answers don't worry you, I don't know what will. And it isn't about Froome or Sky or one rider or one team in general, it is the whole culture, and I'm not convinced it's changed. "There are plenty of secrets that haven’t come out versus what has, and now it’s looking less likely that they will ever be told. " "Say you took EPO for a year, 10 years later, you’re still strong because of that one year. You were able to train harder, longer, all of that and you have a bigger base, if you really break it down and want to be ethical about it."
larkim Aug 2018 6:34am, 31 Aug 2018 5,460 posts	Quote Pin larkim If he knows “secrets” that haven’t yet come out, why doesn’t he tell us them? Too much like Kara “ooh look at me” Goucher’s position to make me comfortable. I don’t doubt he’s correct about EPO and the long lasting benefits - after all, the runners in here seem to agree on the concept of base building and leveraging that in the future, so if EPO allowed you to base build well, then future seasons would certainly benefit. But who is he pointing the finger at in suggesting that 10 years ago they were on EPO I wonder? There’s little that can be done to flush that from the current peloton, just have to let it run through, whoever it impacts. I will take time to read the link though!!
Bazoaxe Aug 2018 9:10am, 31 Aug 2018 13,320 posts	Quote Pin Bazoaxe That was my thought exactly larkim. Tyler isn’t exactly a credible witness given his history of lies. That said some of what he says is probably not far wrong.