20 May
3:36pm, 20 May 2025
6,087 posts
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J2R
@richmac , couldn't agree more. They'll never be in a stronger position to just ignore the RW bullshit than after winning an enormous majority, and yet they've carried on as if another election is imminent, allowing Reform to set the agenda.
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20 May
3:56pm, 20 May 2025
33,968 posts
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richmac
That's how I see it if I was Starmer I'd be refering to Farage as 'The Novelty act' who can't find his constituency
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20 May
3:57pm, 20 May 2025
8,398 posts
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ThorntonRunner
Farage/Tice - a 2nd rate Trump/Musk tribute act
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20 May
4:07pm, 20 May 2025
8,062 posts
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paulcook
richmac wrote: That's how I see it if I was Starmer I'd be refering to Farage as 'The Novelty act' who can't find his constituency Or the HOC. Questions to the PM on the UK-EU deal earlier this afternoon. Guess who wasn't there. |
20 May
4:11pm, 20 May 2025
27,359 posts
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larkim
I guess they are afraid of sneering at him because that's what the "liberal elite" do when they "don't care about the working families". And for good or ill, a pretty substantial number of people put an X in the box against the Reform party at the last GE, so that would be a lot of people being sneered at. Finding an attack line which lands and which disempowers him is hard; trying to find some areas where they can poach back Reform voters hasn't worked / gone down well. Ignore and set the agenda on their own seems the only practical way forward, and then live or die electorally on their actual record. Sounds simple, but at some point "events" are going to come along which means they have to be ready to deal with farage though. |
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20 May
4:22pm, 20 May 2025
33,970 posts
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richmac
I take your point Larkim but I'd say it's time to come out swinging - dare I say channel a but if Johnson
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20 May
4:51pm, 20 May 2025
34,530 posts
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Dave W
Don’t sneer at him. Just point out at every opportunity what a useless shitbag he is. And his policies and his politics stink. |
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20 May
4:55pm, 20 May 2025
33,974 posts
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richmac
That's it - If Starmer starts every attack with "This isn't a lieral eleite sneer It's calling out.." then you defuse the3 twunt
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20 May
5:00pm, 20 May 2025
27,364 posts
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larkim
Easier said than done I think. What we need is someone like John Prescott who could throw verbal punches that land on Farage in the tone and language that the voters that both of them are trying to appeal to would understand. I suspect a lot of Reform voters have already decided they don't like Starmer ("saville", "gets child murderers released", etc etc) so anything he says falls on deaf ears. Rayner could do the Prescott role, but again the uninformed tabloid pen portrait of her at Ibiza, in expensive shoes etc etc may make it harder for her to land the punches too. An Andy Burnham could do it. |
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20 May
6:09pm, 20 May 2025
8,063 posts
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paulcook
larkim wrote: I suspect a lot of Reform voters have already decided they don't like Starmer ("saville", "gets child murderers released", etc etc) so anything he says falls on deaf ears. That's why some of the attack lines, and particularly some of the policy targets of recent, make no sense to me. There's a good chunk of the right wing vote, even if they are from would be Labour working class vote communities, will never, ever, vote for Labour and Starmer. Whatever you do. |
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