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Sep 2018
11:39am, 16 Sep 2018
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Derby Tup
I think there’s two lying down signals: I’m frightened and submit to you (like cowering) OR I’m preparing for an attack. I think sheepdogs are trained to lie down for there work. Tuss (who’s generally very ‘waggy’ and playful) has always been cautious when meeting collies. He loves spaniels
Sep 2018
11:43am, 16 Sep 2018
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Rosehip
I think Ralph is just - nope, I'm not moving, whatever you say.
He has a Viszla "girlfriend" called Bunty - generally known as Bouncy :)
Sep 2018
12:04pm, 16 Sep 2018
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Derby Tup
Bouncy would be a great middle name for vizslas (or Sniffy - Tuss has just been all over me sniffing while I ate a Chorley cake)
Sep 2018
1:09pm, 16 Sep 2018
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LazyDaisy
Floss finds 'lying down' a disturbing signal from another dog - partly because she has indeed experienced a collie launching himself at her from that position.

Interestingly when the two dogs were chasing each other round the dining table yesterday, Flossie did what always does when the other dig is too far ahead of her, and turned round to wsit for him comjng the other way. This seemed to completely nonplus Cooper who didn't know that he too should change direction, so they both stood and looked at each other. It was only when Floss turned round *again*, that the game could resume. We wondered if that was part of his herding instinct. On One Man and his Dog sometimes you see a 'feisty' sheep stand its ground and the sheepdog doesn't know what to do :-) Once the sheep starts running, all is well again.
Sep 2018
1:10pm, 16 Sep 2018
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LazyDaisy
So sorry about all the typos - on my phone, in bright sunshine, can hardly see the screen!
D2
Sep 2018
9:30am, 22 Sep 2018
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D2
I belong to an American Competition Obedience group on the internet, its really interesting and different to the British traditional approach to dog training, lots of fun to read about!

There has been a recent discussion about male versus female dogs and which is best for top competition.... you can imagine there has been a "lively" debate.

This morning I loved a woman's description of her confident dog; she says he's all "hold my beer and watch this", really made me laugh.
Sep 2018
9:32am, 22 Sep 2018
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Derby Tup
Great phrase that D2

Certainly with vizslas in my experience dogs and bitches are very different in temperament
Sep 2018
10:06am, 22 Sep 2018
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Sharkie
Jess does the collie like lying down. We call it 'going into sheepdog'. It's not a signal she'll attack - but is definitely a weighing up of the other dog/person approach. She will respond to a command at this point so we've stopped worrying - as much.
Sep 2018
10:50am, 22 Sep 2018
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Chrisull
Dougal, surprisingly, doesn't do the collie lying down. If he's gonna bark or growl, he gets jumpy and tries to run around the object of fear (caterpillar, hedgehog, mother in law...)

He's now started shaking in the mornings of rubbish collection, in the house, when he hears the bin lorry and won't eat food until it's long out of earshot. Any thoughts anyone on this?
Sep 2018
11:52am, 22 Sep 2018
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Alice the Camel
I’ve no idea really Chrisull, except to wonder if some breeds are more sensitive to certain noises/ frequencies. Charlie will happily tolerate fireworks but goes crazy when he hears church bells. We know it’s bell practice on a Thursday evening so keep him in with the tv on and make sure one of us is in the room with him in case he shows signs of becoming anxious

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