The Environment Thread :-)
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8 Jan
2:19pm, 8 Jan 2025
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ThorntonRunner
Yep. It frustrates me as well. There are two numbers required: in kWh the overall capacity, and in kW the rate at which the power can be supplied. I rarely see both and with the misuse of kW/kWh it's not always obvious which they're referring to.
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14 Jan
2:35pm, 14 Jan 2025
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rf_fozzy
theguardian.com Again all new nuclear costs more than the previous one. This is why I doubt SMR. Given noone has actually built one. |
1 May
9:57pm, 1 May 2025
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HappyG(rrr)
I'm going to post this hear because I think I'm safe Notton upset peeps - the chat on Retirement thread for people lucky enough to be able to stop work early is all about jetting of to foreign parts for warm winters. I tell you what, we all need to get used to minimal use of planes and enjoying time nearer home, using electric car, bus or train. Got that off my chest.  G
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1 May
10:15pm, 1 May 2025
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Curly45
I agree Happy and we try not to fly accordingly, but if someone's dream vacation is Japan or whatever it's hard to say they shouldn't go because of environmental challenges. Is once in a lifetime the problem or is it 3 or 4 times a year short haul that is worse?
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1 May
10:21pm, 1 May 2025
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HappyG(rrr)
Absolutely Curly, 1 x once ina lifetime or family essential visits etc all OK. But multiple times per year? Just sounds weird and wrong in current crisis. I blame the budget holiday carriers. £10 flights should be outlawed. Or there should be a £500 climate levy per 10,000 miles or something. Need to make people think twice. So many ads at the moment - don't get a bad pizza, just go to Rome and get the real thing. No. Don't! Anyhoo, I'm probably just being a grouch. |
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1 May
10:24pm, 1 May 2025
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Curly45
We try not to fly as we feel the same so I understand But if I won some money I might think about a long haul and I've flown for work before many times. Not a saint. Also agree a frequent flyer or miles levy would work to reduce flights. |
2 May
12:11am, 2 May 2025
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3M
Oh for a £10 flight offer....! The prices for places I'd like to go are making it easier to not fly.
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2 May
7:16am, 2 May 2025
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MaT.T
I will speak my truth. I don't think You are being grouchy G. I think You're being authentic. Like me you feel a lot of the suffering in the world and it makes you sad or angry. Or that is what the feelings are labelled as by those who try and sell us external happiness or solutions in the form of destructive consumption for ourselves, for all life. I prefer empathetic and passionate though. Anger is as destructive an energy as the long haul flight, it creates more suffering, more unnecessary consumption. Passion is beautiful. Reality for me, if you think it woo woo that is fine, is that only inner peace can bring the happiness that we are promised with retirement, an exotic holiday, a bottle of wine etc, lasting happiness at least. And with that peace we can experience the exhilarating miracles of each moment whether sat on our sofa or exploring the beauty and history on our very doorstep just as well as we can on a sunny beach in Australia. We are not grouchy we are aware, we are healing. Indeed anyone alive today who is not 'grouchy' is maybe not paying attention to their, or the collectives, suffering? Consuming to suppress? We are on the more difficult path in many ways, feeling the suffering but ultimately, for me, the one of selflessness and compassion. It is how I communicate my concerns regard the environment I try to focus on. Why do I supposedly get grouchy, sad or angry at others consumption choices? Because I love them, mother earth, all her beings. Everything is based in love. The whole of creation is, everything else is a mind construct. I understand the complexities of the conditions that lead us all to make the choices we do in each moment so I will stand in my power, live honestly, but in the knowledge that my words can be harmful too so try to do so without judgement. The militant approach doesn't work, if it did we wouldn't be in this situation. There would be no more anger, conflict, destruction or separation. I've actually been contemplating how elective mutism could help. Letting only my actions be the energy i share. It is radical I know but really just a meditation. In the words of my teacher, Thich Nhat Hanh, I can not strive for peace, only be peace. If it's not love we can let it all go. |
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2 May
7:21am, 2 May 2025
52,620 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Maybe not £10 anymore. Easyjet and Ryanair have all the European short destinations at £25 one way though. There really are groups of young people going for the weekend. Not just young actually. I'm not blaming the individuals. And I'm not squeaky clean. And I have family in islands of Scotland and Germany which were all flights, though nowadays we go by ferry and car. And NZ family can only be reached by plane. Really governments need to make plane travel harder. But none will. It will be seen as "taxing our hard earned right to a holiday". Not a vote winner. Mustn't despair. Hope humans can work it out. Just not looking very good at it, so far. G
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2 May
7:22am, 2 May 2025
52,621 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
MaT.T wrote: I will speak my truth. I don't think You are being grouchy G. I think You're being authentic. Like me you feel a lot of the suffering in the world and it makes you sad or angry. Or that is what the feelings are labelled as by those who try and sell us external happiness or solutions in the form of destructive consumption for ourselves, for all life. I prefer empathetic and passionate though. Anger is as destructive an energy as the long haul flight, it creates more suffering, more unnecessary consumption. Passion is beautiful. Reality for me, if you think it woo woo that is fine, is that only inner peace can bring the happiness that we are promised with retirement, an exotic holiday, a bottle of wine etc, lasting happiness at least. And with that peace we can experience the exhilarating miracles of each moment whether sat on our sofa or exploring the beauty and history on our very doorstep just as well as we can on a sunny beach in Australia. We are not grouchy we are aware, we are healing. Indeed anyone alive today who is not 'grouchy' is maybe not paying attention to their, or the collectives, suffering? Consuming to suppress? We are on the more difficult path in many ways, feeling the suffering but ultimately, for me, the one of selflessness and compassion. It is how I communicate my concerns regard the environment I try to focus on. Why do I supposedly get grouchy, sad or angry at others consumption choices? Because I love them, mother earth, all her beings. Everything is based in love. The whole of creation is, everything else is a mind construct. I understand the complexities of the conditions that lead us all to make the choices we do in each moment so I will stand in my power, live honestly, but in the knowledge that my words can be harmful too so try to do so without judgement. The militant approach doesn't work, if it did we wouldn't be in this situation. There would be no more anger, conflict, destruction or separation. I've actually been contemplating how elective mutism could help. Letting only my actions be the energy i share. It is radical I know but really just a meditation. In the words of my teacher, Thich Nhat Hanh, I can not strive for peace, only be peace. If it's not love we can let it all go. 
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