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Chrisull
Chrisull
Apr 2022
3:51pm, 29 Apr 2022
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5th for me, not too bad.
cackleberry
cackleberry
Apr 2022
4:13pm, 29 Apr 2022
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22 percentile

I'm surprised as I am in the middle of arable fields, over a mile from the nearest town. BUT a lot of solid fuel heating round about, including our own.

At work we are 11 percentile. Right next to the A1. Nearest town over 2 miles away perhaps though. All arable/pasture surrounding us (other than the A1!)
cackleberry
cackleberry
Apr 2022
4:15pm, 29 Apr 2022
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Wow, mum's house is 60 percentile! She is on a main road on the outskirts of a medium sized town so not so surprising.
AJLB
AJLB
Apr 2022
4:16pm, 29 Apr 2022
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99th percentile for me :(
ThorntonRunner
ThorntonRunner
Apr 2022
4:19pm, 29 Apr 2022
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47th for me which surprises me as we live in a village surrounded by countryside
macca 53
macca 53
Apr 2022
5:08pm, 29 Apr 2022
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25th percentile for me
HappyG(rrr)
HappyG(rrr)
Apr 2022
5:17pm, 29 Apr 2022
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Did anyone look at what methodology they actually use? I'm 9th but not putting much store by it! :-) G
Fields
Fields
Apr 2022
5:38pm, 29 Apr 2022
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I doubt there’s someone outside everyone’s house with a meter reporting the data, but I hope it might concentrate minds, particularly for those who live in urban areas who are more at risk
AJLB
AJLB
Apr 2022
6:19pm, 29 Apr 2022
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Interesting to see that the petition it takes you to is to require estate agents to disclose pollution levels on properties. I worry it will only depress house prices and lead to "sink" areas where air pollution just adds to reasons not to choose living there. My area already has a sky-high murder and other crime rate (3 murders and two attempted murders since Christmas!), so doesn't need a further push. I'm not saying this as a home owner, as I live in tied property, but don't really see how this deals with the problem.
Weath
Weath
Apr 2022
6:57pm, 29 Apr 2022
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The data is likely to wide of the mark in most cases due to the granular nature of the monitoring that underpins it

I haven't taken a look at it yet (just heard overview on the local radio and seen the comments here) and it will likely be extrapolated from the 1km modeling output from Defra's AURN network.

Usually these tools have no relevance on real world circumstances and the WHO standards are a ridiculously unachievable (and currently unadopted) target for a high percentage of locations.

I'm speaking as a lead air quality Environmental Health Officer with 17+ years of local air quality monitoring and reporting to Defra.

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Hi
I've seen environment (whether emissions, power, climate change, access to countryside, whatever you think of as "environment") discussed in various threads: Politics (obviously), the Electric Car thread fetcheveryone.com/forum/electric-car-anyone-61481/ , run free's excellent "Competitive Running and Keeping The Environment Clean" fetcheveryone.com/forum/running-competitively-keeping-our-environment-clean-60907/ my own Greta Thunberg thread fetcheveryone.com/forum/greta-thunberg---jfk-for-the-climate-generation-61044/ etc. but I haven't seen a general one.

So here it is. For those interested in the science, the politics, the action for (and I'll state that for me, this is mostly pro-environment, anti-emissions, anti-pollution etc.) and the hope for the future of our planet.

Useful links posted by contributors:
rf_fozzy: This is quite a good article about how disruptive technology works too: lesswrong.com
Basically about why Kodak completely missed the boat when it came to digital cameras timkastelle.org
run free's Grand Designs example Ben Laws is a man who built his dream: granddesignsmagazine.com granddesignsmagazine.com
Carbon Commentary carboncommentary.com
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