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jacdaw
jacdaw
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What about horses? Must be worse than dogs. Completely pointless, and a waste of good grazing (like golf).
Rosehip
Rosehip
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Dogs are quite good at reducing food waste and mine was good at reducing the local rabbit population. ;)

The meat thing doesn’t look so big as all the lobbyists would have it.
Stop wasting food, wash your clothes in cold water and don’t use the tumble dryer then you can still eat pature raised beef and sequester lots of carbon in the soil in the process.
paulcook
paulcook
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11:31am, 10 Nov 2021
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The horse racing industry could certainly plant an awful lot more trees across each one of its tracks in the country. A waste of good land.
Hanneke
Hanneke
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11:32am, 10 Nov 2021
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Not entirely pointless JD! I will replace my car with a horse when it has run out of usefulness in about 15 years time... I won't need to go anywhere by then I hope, so a horse and carriage will go a long way in transporting my ageing body to the shops occasionally...
rf_fozzy
rf_fozzy
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Careful, there's a horse mafia too.... ;-)

Not sure, but horses don't eat meat, so that makes a big difference.

Re: golf courses. Reducing the number of them would help biodiversity. But....some have helped biodiversity by preventing development.
Hanneke
Hanneke
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There simply is no right answer so everyone should do what they can. I certainly have... So have quite a few friends...
rf_fozzy
rf_fozzy
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Dogs have a *huge* footprint!!

I haven't looked at the meat calculations yet. But those infographics *are* a little misleading

So yes. Eat less meat please. Especially red meat.
jacdaw
jacdaw
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I have a neighbour who hauls trees out of inaccessible woodland with horses, so I know they have their uses.

I wonder also about "sport" road motorbikes, used solely for "fun" (on sunny weekends, on public roads).
Hanneke
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I havent eaten meat for the last 40 years.
Next ;)
jacdaw
jacdaw
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Lots of dog food is what humans won't eat...

All the dog clothes are the big problem.

About This Thread

Maintained by HappyG(rrr)
Hi
I've seen environment (whether emissions, power, climate change, access to countryside, whatever you think of as "environment") discussed in various threads: Politics (obviously), the Electric Car thread fetcheveryone.com/forum/electric-car-anyone-61481/ , run free's excellent "Competitive Running and Keeping The Environment Clean" fetcheveryone.com/forum/running-competitively-keeping-our-environment-clean-60907/ my own Greta Thunberg thread fetcheveryone.com/forum/greta-thunberg---jfk-for-the-climate-generation-61044/ etc. but I haven't seen a general one.

So here it is. For those interested in the science, the politics, the action for (and I'll state that for me, this is mostly pro-environment, anti-emissions, anti-pollution etc.) and the hope for the future of our planet.

Useful links posted by contributors:
rf_fozzy: This is quite a good article about how disruptive technology works too: lesswrong.com
Basically about why Kodak completely missed the boat when it came to digital cameras timkastelle.org
run free's Grand Designs example Ben Laws is a man who built his dream: granddesignsmagazine.com granddesignsmagazine.com
Carbon Commentary carboncommentary.com
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