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Jan 2007
3:38pm, 3 Jan 2007
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There are two schools of thought on that one too BB
The Base Training mob - who use %MaxHR almost exclusively - as your MaxHR doesn't really change and so is simpler
and a significant "Band of others" who support the %WHR
A little more complicated, because as you get fitter and your RHR drops - so do all of the "zones"
But yes - %WHR (which you are talking about) DOES give you a higher HR to work with in the lower zones especially!!!
The difference can be illustrated quite nicely with my values...
MHR - 207
RHR - 38
60% WHR 139
MHR 124
70% WHR 156
MHR 145
80% WHR 173
MHR 165
85% WHR 181
MHR 176
So my recovery runs at 145bpm are either 63% WHR or 70% MHR depending on which school of thought you use
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Jan 2007
3:52pm, 3 Jan 2007
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B.B.
So then the debate is what 'bands' do what for your training. I suspect we could be chasing our tails on this one 
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Jan 2007
4:00pm, 3 Jan 2007
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I suspect you are right!
Which is why I won't run - at my current level of fitness - at much below 140bpm!
'tis too slow!
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Jan 2007
4:20pm, 3 Jan 2007
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All too confusing. Think I'll stick to "70%" WHR and "above" So for long runs that's around the 145 to 150 mark. Allow a bit more if there's a long steady hill. I tried walking really really fast a while back and couldn't get my HR much above 110, killed my legs and feet in the process due to impact! Start running and it's up to 140. Can get between 110 and 140 if I'm doing an exercise DVD, struggle to get it above 140 then.
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Jan 2007
4:27pm, 3 Jan 2007
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Qwerty
Me, I love numbers!
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Jan 2007
4:46pm, 3 Jan 2007
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Yes and that is why I use TWO figures. My recovery ceiling and my lactate threshold. I stay at or below recovery ceiling which in my case is 138 for easy days and make sure that I'm above my lactate threshold on the hard trainig days.
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Jan 2007
4:52pm, 3 Jan 2007
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Moschops, I'm with you on this one - I do most of my running at below my 70%WHR figure.
However, as mentioned above, the maximum and resting heart rates should be reviewed (I'm not sure how often - I admit that I haven't checked mine for sometime!) and updated as necessary.
The % figure on the FE training log, I understand, is the training run's average h/r as a % of the maximum WHR.
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Jan 2007
7:53pm, 3 Jan 2007
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Sir Pabsey - Knight of Fetch
I'm guessing outside with a bit of wind resistance 9:00s will be slow enough for my recovery run each week and I plan a 3:45 full, so that's 8:35 PMP so my LSRs should be >9:35 which will almost certainly be below 70% MHR.
hopefully 1 speed session, 1 tempo, 1 LSR, 1 recovery, 1 race and 1 medium a week should be balanced enough to do the job. I'll only use the HRM for the LSR and recovery thou.
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Jan 2007
8:09pm, 3 Jan 2007
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On the training log on Fetch - it's %MaxHR
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Jan 2007
8:09pm, 3 Jan 2007
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Hello - remember me ?
Some interesting stuff on this thread - thanks for making it so.
Tarange - love the idea of going to bed with HRM strapped to do the check in the morning. Think it might freak out OH though !
Kieran - you scared me ! *risk* *pushing to the limit* - eek
El Bee & Ian - you both have my admiration for knowing so much and stimulating debate.
I'm 50, RHR 54 , and calculated max is 178. Now, bearing in mind poorly knee (wonder if I have injured myself running too slow?), rigged up HRM with zones in accordance with my book, and zoomed off on static bike (can't ride a real one- I have much to learn). Anyway including warming up, cooling down etc, spent around 11 minutes in Zones, 2,3 & 4. Didn't get up to Max. But at one point my legs were burning so much I have to slow down). When I took the data off my HRM, max was 144bpm, and I guess that was at the point were my legs were burning. Am I just a wimp and unused to the pain ? Going on didn't seem like an option - but maybe that's what everyone else does.
Discuss......
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