Nov 2016
7:15pm, 17 Nov 2016
23,041 posts
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SPR
Brunski from what I've been reading, you need to leave you HRM at home when racing as it sounds like you'll look at it and react to it. You really don't need to see HR when racing.
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Nov 2016
7:49pm, 17 Nov 2016
10,488 posts
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Fenland_Plodder
I found a HRM useful when running a marathon. I got to about 20 miles and my HR was not as high as I thought it was going to be. That gave me the impetus to crack on. Missed a sub-4 by three seconds, mainly due to expecting the finish line to be where we started. It wasn't it was at least another 100 metres.
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Nov 2016
8:06pm, 17 Nov 2016
57 posts
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glucotab
<<<My most recent marathon indicated I can manage 87% of MHR as marathon effort, but I'd caution my MHR is dated and I plan to conduct a new test next month. >>>
Westley - wise words, useful idea to `date` HR. My difficulty with Max Tests is that I`d probably pull a hamstring or two: I`ve rarely lacked the love of speed: it`s been the over-ambition. I committed to an `MPR` (coach once on r/world I think) where seemed to be good recovery for the speedwork: bang, 3 weeks in I was 6 months out on hamstrings. So no all out 400 m for me - that`s a fantasy parallel universe!
Your point about 80-82% MHR is also a good one. Maybe expect this rather than 88-90% for next mara.
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Nov 2016
9:30pm, 17 Nov 2016
32,866 posts
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Hills of Death (HOD)
Ok so it's 2 x 80% runs and the rest at 70% ?
I will get round to the docs just printed off.
Did a nice run tonight 1 mile easy 3 miles at 80% and rest at 70%
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Nov 2016
9:37pm, 17 Nov 2016
85 posts
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Brunski
Thanks guys, think you're both right! I've a 17:47 5k PB and have yet to race a good 10k (but not ran many) I managed a 39:10 at the Hull run for all event but really fancy going sub 38, possibly low 37s. Think I'll try and hit 6 minute miles and see how it goes...
Quite fancied having an upward limit on the HR that alerted me at say 170bpm just to stop me from blowing up later in the race. Any thoughts?
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Nov 2016
9:52pm, 17 Nov 2016
4,528 posts
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Huntsman
I wouldn't run it to HR. Know your pacing and stick to it.
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Nov 2016
9:55pm, 17 Nov 2016
10,490 posts
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Fenland_Plodder
I think a cautious start is a good thing
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Nov 2016
10:28pm, 17 Nov 2016
23,045 posts
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SPR
I'm just going to quote my previous post in response to that question Brunski.
Brunski from what I've been reading, you need to leave you HRM at home when racing as it sounds like you'll look at it and react to it. You really don't need to see HR when racing.
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Nov 2016
12:10am, 18 Nov 2016
86 posts
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Brunski
Yep, OK, ignore HR reading and look to average 6 m:m it is then. I think the start is slightly downhill so won't go out quicker than 5:50 and then look to just keep avg pace around 6:00, which would give me a very healthy PB. Thanks again all.
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Nov 2016
9:43pm, 21 Nov 2016
446 posts
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Daz Love
Brunski - If your 17:47 is recent I would head out at 6mm and see how you do. I done a 17:45 5k and managed bang on 6mm for 10k around 4 weeks later.
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