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Coronavirus discussion thread

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Tim of Fife Jan 2021 7:29pm, 1 Jan 2021 3,094 posts	Quote Pin Tim of Fife No different to prefessional sports teams just now. Every Match of the Day, we see football players hugging after a goal. But understand that we can't do that.
geordiegirl Jan 2021 7:45pm, 1 Jan 2021 12,892 posts	Quote Pin geordiegirl Good point but while I know we understand but I worry many won’t
jda Jan 2021 7:55pm, 1 Jan 2021 9,151 posts	Quote Pin jda As for reinfection, it seems that Manaus is having a resurgence after something like 70% got it back in April! twitter.com
Johnny Jangles Jan 2021 8:01pm, 1 Jan 2021 24,401 posts	Quote Pin Johnny Jangles So... if reinfection occurs even after the first infection created antibodies and T cells and all that malarkey, what is there to suppose that the vaccination won't be rolled over in a similar fashion? - a non-virologist wishes to know
Little Miss Happy Jan 2021 8:16pm, 1 Jan 2021 4,096 posts	Quote Pin Little Miss Happy I was thinking about the infection Rosehip and concluded that it probably highlights the issue with people doing the 'I was tested last week and I'm negative' thing - nothing to say a care home worker tested negative on a Monday couldn't be infectious by Friday.
Johnny Jangles Jan 2021 8:18pm, 1 Jan 2021 24,402 posts	Quote Pin Johnny Jangles Seems to me we are still nowhere near out of the woods yet. Let's hope the planets align propitiously!
jda Jan 2021 8:24pm, 1 Jan 2021 9,152 posts	Quote Pin jda I'm not particularly qualified to comment but from what I've heard it is considered quite plausible - maybe even likely - that a vaccination will provide more robust immunity than a natural infection. But OTOH vaccination against other coronaviruses (colds) hasn't worked out so well in the past. I suspect there's a fair bit of finger-crossing going on... There still doesn't seem to be a whole lot of people having had it twice, which is moderately encouraging.
Johnny Jangles Jan 2021 8:48pm, 1 Jan 2021 24,403 posts	Quote Pin Johnny Jangles It's an interesting subject. Apparently the upper Respiratory tract is considered to be an external surface as far as vaccines are concerned. So it's kind of like the skin on your arm, and developing a vaccine to stop a virus on your skin is very difficult if not impossible. This is apparently one of the reasons why coronavirus vaccines are so difficult to develop. But if Covid was just reduced by vaccination to a URTI without the nastiness of immune system overdrive, I guess that would be a huge win. Perhaps that's where we end up?
Grast_girl Jan 2021 9:50pm, 1 Jan 2021 1,836 posts	Quote Pin Grast_girl Reinfection has been proven in enough cases, with the strains being genetically screened to check that it's not the same infection over a long period, that it's definitely a thing. What we don't know is what proportion of people don't get a good enough natural immune response. It is thought that the vaccines will be better, but I'm not sure whether that depends on having both doses or not. Of course there will be individual variation, so some people might do well with one dose of vaccine, others might never be fully immune.
Johnny Jangles Jan 2021 11:26pm, 1 Jan 2021 24,404 posts	Quote Pin Johnny Jangles I'm wondering how much the decision to vaccinate more people with one dose has been influenced by the new variant and the need to outpace the spread seen in the South East before it takes off in the rest of the country? Is anyone discussing it in those terms?