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Jun 2016
9:34pm, 1 Jun 2016
2,365 posts
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Cyclops
Happy birthday Jet.
Leah had a dog guard in the back but we took it in and out so many times to get bikes in etc that in the end we gave up using it and she just sat in the boot with her head over the back seat or lay down. The children used to get very cross at the dog getting the whole boot while they sat in the back seat with all the luggage! I could imagine though, when she was young, that if we had had a crash, she would not have been very friendly to anyone trying to rescue us. A cage would have been a good thing then. Luckily we did not crash.
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Jun 2016
9:43pm, 1 Jun 2016
3,181 posts
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Helegant
We had to show how we restrained the dog in the car for the Silver GC test, and the examiner was quite strict about dog safety and them not being able to bolt, or become low-flying objects.
I once had a cat that escaped its cage and slunk under the brake pedal - palpitations all round!
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Jun 2016
11:24pm, 1 Jun 2016
5,555 posts
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BaronessBL
Same with us Helegant for the Silver although a dog guard was considered sufficient.
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Jun 2016
7:18am, 2 Jun 2016
3,182 posts
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Helegant
Yes Baroness, our dog crate was considered 'sufficient' but the examiner 'recommended' that the dog be in a harness and restrained even in the crate. His reasoning is that the crate is much larger than the dog and I think he was concerned that Jet could be thrown around in the event of a shunt. He seemed much happier with those owners who had the wide-fabric car harnesses. One of our intructors uses those and she was very impressed with the way it held the dog still and protected its chest during a pile-up.
For the last couple of months I've put Jet into a harness and clipped that to an anchor point in the boot. He seems quite happy with it, and it leaves more room in the car for other stuff.
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Jun 2016
8:11am, 2 Jun 2016
7,394 posts
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Rosehip
Ralph isn't that keen on the car and makes his displeasure known when he's in the crate in the "boot". When we go out en famille you can see him counting...
"all five? damn crate again"
.. "just three - excellent room on the back seat for me" 
He has a wide, padded harness with seat belt clip for in the car - there are two types of attachment for his harness - one has a clip that goes straight into the seat belt socket and one that has a loop that goes around the cross strap of a seat belt. The former is easier to clip and to unclip, but the latter seems safer.
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Jun 2016
8:32am, 2 Jun 2016
8,865 posts
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D2
All very different to back in the day when our dogs used to ride on the tractor and the kids sitting on the wheel guards .......
This has been a really helpful discussion.
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Jun 2016
8:33am, 2 Jun 2016
5,556 posts
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BaronessBL
Those harness clips sound good Rosehip. Wanda doesn't really like the car all that much either but is the opposite to Ralph in that she will settle in her bed in the boot but it's near impossible to persuade her onto the back seat and she doesn't like, but will tolerate if she has to, sitting in the front footwell if I am in the front seat (would not recommend for anything more than a 5 minute journey!!)
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Jun 2016
8:49am, 2 Jun 2016
2,366 posts
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Cyclops
We tried a harness when Leah was little but she used to wriggle a lot and her fur kept getting trapped in it.
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Jun 2016
11:34am, 2 Jun 2016
3,279 posts
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Red Ant
Gosh! Such a lot has happened in five days
Happy belated birthdays to Leah and Jet Lots of lovely photos of beautiful dogs
Very glad to hear that Phoebe escaped unscathed from a terrifying situation.
Dexter is clipped in with a harness. He hates the car. I'm toying with the idea of buying a kind of bucket seat that fits onto the passenger seat. It's raised up so it will allow small dogs to be able to see out of the "bucket" and over the dashboard. I've tried everything else to get him to relax more in the car to no avail so maybe by allowing him to be able to see where he is going this will help to calm him down.
No worries BBL, hope you find a solution for Wanda for your trip away
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Jun 2016
1:47pm, 2 Jun 2016
14,404 posts
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LazyDaisy
We clipped Daisy into a harness/seat belt affair once when we had two small children in car seats and something large and awkward, I forget what, to bring home from the grandparents' house. She was so clearly desperately tense for the whole journey we never inflicted it on her again and she was always happy to lie down and snooze in the luggage bit of the estate. The boys were disappointed as they loved having her between them in the car.
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