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Gobi
Sadly my 18min effort in 4% was not broken out from the rest of the run
Jan 2019
1:44pm, 7 Jan 2019
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Windsor Wool
interesting that Gobi. So, that's ZF vs VF.

Do you have similar data for a non-Nike shoe? That'd be the 4% comparison, right?
Jan 2019
1:55pm, 7 Jan 2019
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Gobi
Puma spikes

6.07 pace 167 176
200 244
Jan 2019
1:57pm, 7 Jan 2019
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Gobi
Hold on kids 4% data at similar pace

5.53 pace 165 174
199 229
Jan 2019
2:00pm, 7 Jan 2019
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Gobi
Oh so here we go

5.56 pace in the zoom - 1.34 stride length
5.53 pace in the 4% - 1.37 stride length

These runs are a week apart so my conditioning is similar

Again supports the 4% I get a longer stride for less effort
SKR
Jan 2019
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SKR
@Puzzler I've gone back to look at my garmin's running dynamics for my last run in my VFs and they are pretty much the same as when i run in my adios 3. i'd say the main difference is probably in the reduced perceived effort and the "springiness" in my step.

Bear in mind that i only wear them for long tempo runs anyway and naturally those are high cadence runs.
Jan 2019
3:25pm, 7 Jan 2019
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Chrisull
But the Zooms still look better than the Puma spikes on those figures right?
Jan 2019
3:32pm, 7 Jan 2019
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Gobi
yeap the zooms are without a doubt the fastest shoes I own
Jan 2019
3:38pm, 7 Jan 2019
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Chrisull
Meanwhile some H streets (brand new) have appeared on ebay at 29.95... women's in white with a mauve swoosh, but as my feet are bloomin wide anyway and men's runners are nearly always too narrow for me, and given H streets have been unavailable for the last 4 years, beggars cannot be choosers. Hmm Zoom fly's vs h streets.

Separately what's the cheapest anyone has picked up the 4% VF's for? Under 200?
Jan 2019
3:38pm, 7 Jan 2019
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Windsor Wool
now that ^ is unexpected and perhaps not what Nike's marketers wanted to hear!

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