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The Environment Thread :-)

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Jan 2022
9:06am, 9 Jan 2022
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Hanneke
I have, in the very distant past, when I chaned myself to gates of nuclear power stations in the Netherlands, read that both options are viable.
Personally, untill we find a way to neutralise and re-use the rest material, nuclear power is a nono!
Jan 2022
9:07am, 9 Jan 2022
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Fields
Did you ever go to Greenham Hanneke or was that before you came to the UK?
Jan 2022
9:09am, 9 Jan 2022
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Hanneke
It was before I came to the UK.
Dodewaard en Borsele.
Jan 2022
9:11am, 9 Jan 2022
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Hanneke
It was rather humiliating! I was only 16 so when we were cut loose and arrested, they called my dad to come and pick me up! So I was driven off in my dad's car, in the "child's seat" while the others went in the riot van to the police station? 😂😂😂
Jan 2022
9:12am, 9 Jan 2022
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Fields
Well done still 👍 On the right track from an early age :-)
Jan 2022
9:15am, 9 Jan 2022
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Hanneke
Yeah... I was a tad different ;) my dad admitted it was his fault for getting adult books out of the library for me from the age of 9, and I don't mean "that" type of adult ;) He also had me reading the paper, think critically and loving nature so a recipe for a protesting stroppy teenager rather than a clubbing one: my sister, who was under the influence of my mum! 😂🤣😂

I think I still have my ban the bomb badge somewhere too...
Jan 2022
12:26pm, 10 Jan 2022
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JRitchie
The new Dutch government which is 3hours old has two climate problems - its Nitrogen Crisis being very acute. significant funds set aside to de-intensify Dutch Farming - which will then let them do other things - like build houses.

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Jan 2022
12:32pm, 10 Jan 2022
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Hanneke
The Dutch struggle, big time! Have you seen the pig farms? Like multi-story car parks for pigs. Horrid and why my brother in law, pig specialist vet, no longer is a vet. He could not cope with pumping antibiotics and growth hormones into the poor things, as that was what his job became.
Jan 2022
12:37pm, 10 Jan 2022
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Hanneke
I really despair, as this intensive meat and dairy production can simply be reduced to manageable levels IF and this is the issue, we were prepared to eat less and better quality, i.e. grass fed, free range, organic meat and dairy. Also we, as a nation, consume far too much dairy... Pumped full of antibiotics to prevent mastitis and growth hormones and pregnancy hormones to keep a good flow of milk. It is not healthy or sustainable!
Jan 2022
1:56pm, 10 Jan 2022
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In favour of the Netherlands' environmental credentials, I heard yesterday they had stabilised the bee population with some direct intervention(s) last year. I shall try to find a quotable source for that!

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I've seen environment (whether emissions, power, climate change, access to countryside, whatever you think of as "environment") discussed in various threads: Politics (obviously), the Electric Car thread fetcheveryone.com/forum/electric-car-anyone-61481/ , run free's excellent "Competitive Running and Keeping The Environment Clean" fetcheveryone.com/forum/running-competitively-keeping-our-environment-clean-60907/ my own Greta Thunberg thread fetcheveryone.com/forum/greta-thunberg---jfk-for-the-climate-generation-61044/ etc. but I haven't seen a general one.

So here it is. For those interested in the science, the politics, the action for (and I'll state that for me, this is mostly pro-environment, anti-emissions, anti-pollution etc.) and the hope for the future of our planet.

Useful links posted by contributors:
rf_fozzy: This is quite a good article about how disruptive technology works too: lesswrong.com
Basically about why Kodak completely missed the boat when it came to digital cameras timkastelle.org
run free's Grand Designs example Ben Laws is a man who built his dream: granddesignsmagazine.com granddesignsmagazine.com
Carbon Commentary carboncommentary.com
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