Polarized training
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Oct 2014
9:06am, 22 Oct 2014
4,037 posts
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Rosehip
me neither UC - I find just a few minutes high intensity makes me much more tired the next day than a lovely long slow trail run too. I might start with one a fortnight. Plan is lowly coming together, going to target Cambridge half, seeing as I've actually entered that and everything else is just on a wish list
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Oct 2014
9:47am, 22 Oct 2014
19,675 posts
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SPR
Regular training at velocities well above vMarathon seems to characterize top- class marathoners. Portuguese marathoner Carlos Lopes (2h 7min 11s in 1985) performed two speed workouts per week, 15 x 400m at v3000m and 6 x 2000m at v10,000m, almost all of the year with a high weekly total distance (200 to 240km). That's from this: billat.net So from the training of elite runners, you have session that will take around a minute per rep (15 x 400m) I've used the aerobic intervals from Pirie's book in the past and they are a max of 400m, and typically 100m/200m. In training schedules by Renato Canova, there is are 1 min and 2 min intervals. All of this says, you don't need long intervals for this. The other thing is, you don't need to be at your limit, although I can understand that if you're used to marathon pace, 3km/ 5km/ 10km pace may feel like your limit. |
Oct 2014
2:14pm, 22 Oct 2014
11,045 posts
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Ultracat
Sounds good SPR. I will probably do 300m with 300m recovery, with the 300m rep. done in around 90seconds to start with. As I am recovering from a marathon done on Sunday, probably wise to wait a few weeks. Does hill work count towards a harder session?
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Oct 2014
3:07pm, 22 Oct 2014
19,685 posts
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SPR
Providing the workout is structured well, I don't see why not. What type of session will you be doing? I do sprint reps on hills sometimes instead of the flat for the strength benefit, but I've never done aerobic intervals as hill work. |
Oct 2014
3:10pm, 22 Oct 2014
6,577 posts
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Chrisull
This the problem I have "the presentation above talks about athletes walking to make sure they stay below their max level" , I'd be walking massive amounts of every run, because the amount of hills round here! I know the HADD program also advocates similar, but there must be an alternative surely?
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Oct 2014
3:22pm, 22 Oct 2014
19,686 posts
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SPR
Chris, do your hills really mean you'd go into the lactic zone if you don't walk? I'm not a fan of walking unless running would result in you feeling like you're racing. I don't encounter any hills that would make me feel like this, and I'm not worried by my HR rising a little as I'd still be in running aerobic zone, and I like the conditioning benefits of running uphill. |
Oct 2014
3:35pm, 22 Oct 2014
54,703 posts
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Gobi
These days I do about 90% possible more easy/steady. Speedwork what limited I do running is pretty much hard intervals. Have run 16.45 for 5km this year off it I have Read Pirie and Lydiard and am a big fan of variable pace and pure speedwork |
Oct 2014
4:20pm, 22 Oct 2014
6,579 posts
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Chrisull
Not quite, but certainly way over 80% HR, often flattening out close to 90%... so ok a few spikes on steep hills are fine.
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Oct 2014
4:24pm, 22 Oct 2014
54,705 posts
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Gobi
no hills on a track SPR :¬)
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Oct 2014
4:46pm, 22 Oct 2014
19,687 posts
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SPR
I don't have a track anymore :-(. The university tore it up in March as part of their development program. It is supposed to return at some point but not sure when (certainly not for next summer).
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