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Logging activities: A question of trust

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McGoohan
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The what with the when with the who now?
ThorntonRunner
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I may be talking rubbish here (I usually am), but there is an tolerance on the data recorded due to the accuracy of the time signal snet from each satellite. Hence when you lock on, Garmin will say it's accurate to within 20m or whatever. So the raw data is not itself exact. Do different pieces of software use different algorithms for smoothing the data between successive points (some may just use the raw data, others may try to smooth out these up to 20m inaccuracies). This would allow different software to give different results.
The one thing that isn't up for grabs is the time though - can't see any reason why the interpretatino of the raw data would change that
GregP
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Fetch - read the header - that is the general thrust of it, but Spouter is spot on - we can't understand why strava seems to be almost wilfully 'inaccurate'.
GregP
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ThoRu - sort of with you - but your last sentence, with which I concur, pulls everything else into doubt, surely?
Argie
Argie
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12:56pm, 19 Jun 2012
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Is this a thread to circumvent the usual feedback route and actually get Lord Fetch to answer feedback for another website? If it is then that is a most excellent idea.

I wonder if the lazy imp could explain why itunes is such a fucking nightmare.
GregP
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Imp? Improvement on pixie, I s'pose.

No Arge - strava seems to be something of a (cycling) phenomenon at the moment, and I joined in the fun, then noticed I was getting odd data.

Fetch, Garmin Connect and TrainingPeaks seem to take one view of the world. strava takes a different one. Nobody has managed to explain why.
fetcheveryone
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Fetch uses the lat/long pairs recorded by the GPS device, and calculates the distance between each one using maths. I can't speak for the others.
Argie
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Perhaps strava is shit. (which is my explanation by the way). :-)
Argie
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"Maths" - WTAF
GregP
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Thanks Fetch - that's helpful. And presumably that maths is unambiguous?

Arge - this seems to be the emerging concesus, yes.

About This Thread

Maintained by GregP
A sort of 'Why FetchEveryone is better than STRAVA' wire.
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Last Sunday I cycled to church.

My Fetch log, which I trust beyond all possibility of doubt, tells me this:

17.07 miles, 1h19m46s, max speed 30.3mph

Garmin Connect, which one assumes is closest to the raw data, tells me this:

17.07 miles, 1h19m46s, max speec 30.3mph

This makes me very happy.

Now, gentle Fetchies, you may have seen or read or experienced strava recently, and been tempted, as I was, to 'dabble' and see whether it might be fun. strava taking data from the same source (my Garmin EDGE 800) tells me this.

17.1 miles, 1h20m48s, max speed 31.9mph

Interesting, eh?
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