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Oct 2016
12:41pm, 11 Oct 2016
10,571 posts
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Bazoaxe
Hunts, I am pretty sure I have averaged 89% max in some marathons and I wouldn't say I had amazing conditioning ! It is fair to say though that the better shape I have been in, the higher I can push that HR in races.
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Oct 2016
12:51pm, 11 Oct 2016
4,342 posts
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Huntsman
It's all relative Baz. You have 9 years of solid mileage and I have solid mileage in the last 2 years. IMO that's a big difference. There is no way I could currently average 85-89% during a marathon.
Maybe amazing was the wrong word. Obviously you don't have the same conditioning as an elite or semi elite runners but your legs have thousands of miles in them surely that makes a difference to your marathon conditioning.
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Oct 2016
1:50pm, 11 Oct 2016
3,565 posts
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Nelly
Interesting thoughts... I'd agree with Baz, with good (but not necessarily fantastic/amazing) conditioning I think you should be able to run a marathon with average HR in the range of 85-89% MHR. For example, at Manchester in April my average HR was 87.6% MHR (with the last 10km @ avg 92.5% MHR), and then Robin Hood in September was also 87% MHR.
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Oct 2016
2:53pm, 11 Oct 2016
4,345 posts
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Huntsman
Inspiring guys. If I could hit and average of 87% max Hr for a marathon next year I'd be on for an unbelievable time for a marathon relative to my current PB.
Need to get the miles in 
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Oct 2016
8:34pm, 11 Oct 2016
10,572 posts
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Bazoaxe
Ive looked back and all the marathons I found wearing an HRM were in the 87-89% range with 89.9% the highest and 89.7% in the most recent which is my PB.
Granted Hunts I have a lot of miles under my belt now, but back in 2010 when I first wore an HRM I didn't have the same miles in the tank and arguably that was only my 2nd high mileage year.....
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Oct 2016
8:55pm, 11 Oct 2016
4,347 posts
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Huntsman
Interesting point Baz. I need to run more miles to keep the HR up the latter stages of the marathon.
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Oct 2016
8:59pm, 11 Oct 2016
10,573 posts
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Bazoaxe
more easy miles......
I am into month 2 of Hadd base building and my 80% max run tonight and also last Tuesday show signs of improvement that make me quite happy ! Still some HR drift but due to the wind it looks worse than it is
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Oct 2016
9:12pm, 11 Oct 2016
59,000 posts
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Gobi
Another one who raced at 90 % in a half when in shape
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Oct 2016
10:38pm, 11 Oct 2016
3,591 posts
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chunkywizard
I'm such a slacker, I only managed 81% Max HR at Chester! Maidenhead Half has a better effort, that was 87%, and parkrun last week was 94%
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Oct 2016
7:56am, 12 Oct 2016
36 posts
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Brunski
I'm looking at less than 75% MHR for York, I can't imagine pushing myself to that effort level. Even my 10kms recently I start at around 155 and build to around 180, sprinting in at about 200 bpm.
Definitely need to start pushing up the effort levels.
Huntsman, will look at updating my profile when I get a bit more time. But basically I've been running for about 7 years but stepped it up in the last 3 years after quitting weekend football. Ran loads of parkruns and then progressed to the odd 10km. Have run 2 half marathons, and 2 full marathons now. Here are my PBs:
5k - 17:47
10k - 39:10 (this needs improving)
Half 1:28:58 (the Yorkshire half, up a massive hill and down again)
Full 3:02:28 Sunday's Yorkshire marathon.
Basically I don't think I'm training enough to run any of the longer distances at the effort prescribed by other HR monitor wearers. Of I'm just a bit soft and don't push it as I could.
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