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Mar 2020
6:36pm, 28 Mar 2020
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HappyG(rrr)
And that copper has reiterated his (and presumably his colleagues' and his force's) interpretation of "ONE LOCAL RUN a day". The legislation might not say it, but if that's police interpretation, do you really want to be upsetting the police, at this difficult time?
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Mar 2020
7:02pm, 28 Mar 2020
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[I have learnt and advocated that wherever someone has real authority (police, airport security etc) it's never worth arguing or being rude or disrespectful. Even if when convinced they're wrong, respond respectfully & politely, don't suggest or imply they're wrong, maybe explain your reasoning, but comply with whatever they say gracefully. Complain later if you want, but in any situation I've seen people try and tell them they're wrong, guess who comes off second best? Or severely disrupted? Not the official.

And they're not going to change what they're superiors have told them to do, just because you disagree.

They are doing a fairly thankless task - and as one colleague (US police & SWAT team) said, their primary focus is (1) we all get home safely (ie the police), then (2) we will enforce the law as we've been instructed. ]
Mar 2020
10:09pm, 28 Mar 2020
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Canute
Now that the regulations have been published we know the strict legal position (see sidebar on the right). I suppose we are unlikely to face prosecution unless we violate the letter of these regulations. It is nonetheless noteworthy that the regulations include the words 'without reasonable excuse'.

The wording of the regulations is different from BJ’s statement on 23rd March, which is a bit confusing.

Nonehteless, the overall body of government pronouncements in the past week makes the spirit underlying the regulations clear. We should leave the house as little as possible, and only with 'reasonable excuse'. When doing so, we must take stringent precautions to avoid contact with others.

However low the risk of contact with the virus might be during any run we might wish to do, if we are perceived to flout the spirit of the regulations we are likely to irritate our neighbours, waste police time, and generally damage community solidarity. There is little point in contrived arrangements to try to fit within the letter of the regulations. It is more important to temper a legalistic approach with good judgment and consideration for the community.

It might be that the concept of what is reasonable becomes more precisely defined over the next few days, but if there is doubt, it appears that one local run per day would be regarded as reasonable
Mar 2020
1:11pm, 29 Mar 2020
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HappyG(rrr)
Today's govt guidance is 30 MINUTES RUN (or 60 mins wslk) per day.

I'll be surprised if all runners, even good Fetchies, are adhering to that?
Mar 2020
1:14pm, 29 Mar 2020
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Bintmcskint
Where is that guidance, HappyG(rrr)?

Is that new?
Mar 2020
1:16pm, 29 Mar 2020
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Rosehip
Whoever it was this morning answering a specific question said "60 mins walk or 30 minutes run would be appropriate for most people to keep up their usual exercise"
Mar 2020
1:18pm, 29 Mar 2020
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Bintmcskint
Found it. Michael Gove. BBC website.

"No mention is given to how long you can exercise for.
But the Cabinet Office minister Michael Gove has advised: "I would have thought for most people a walk of up to an hour, a run of 30 minutes or a cycle ride of between that, depending on their level of fitness, is appropriate"
Mar 2020
1:21pm, 29 Mar 2020
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Bintmcskint
I am sticking to the once a day and local to home rule but, until that 30 mins becomes a strict rule, I have to admit I won't be adhering to the 30 minutes advice.
Mar 2020
1:23pm, 29 Mar 2020
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Sigh
Just read that too, thanks.

Great - so a throwaway comment by Gove will now be held in high regard and we'll be judged by it. Super.

Since he hasn't volunteered an opinion on how long to cycle for, that may be an option!
Mar 2020
1:25pm, 29 Mar 2020
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Tim of MK
I will do the same. One run a day in my local area, but not just for half-an-hour

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Covid-19 case numbers continue to rise exponentially in the UK.

It is even more crucial to do everything we can to slow the rate of onset of new cases. Nonetheless, exercise remains important for our health.

The relevant piece of the legislation in England is:

The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020

Restrictions on movement

6.—(1) During the emergency period, no person may leave the place where they are living without reasonable excuse.

(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1), a reasonable excuse includes the need—

(a) to obtain basic necessities, including food and medical supplies for those in the same household (including any pets or animals in the household) or for vulnerable persons and supplies for the essential upkeep, maintenance and functioning of the household, or the household of a vulnerable person, or to obtain money, including from any business listed in Part 3 of Schedule 2;

(b) to take exercise either alone or with other members of their household;

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That is an abbreviated version. Here is a link to a more comprehensive specification of section 6:
legislation.gov.uk

Similar regulations apply in Scotland, where section 8, (5) (b) states:
(b) to take exercise, either alone or with other members of their household.
In Northern Ireland, section 5 (2) (b) is the same:
(b) to take exercise either alone or with other members of their household;

In Wales, the regulations state that you can leave the house no more than once a day for exercise, The relevant section [section 8] states:

(b) to take exercise, no more than once a day, either alone or with other members of the household.

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Here is a link to the guidance regarding a reasonable excuse to leave the house, issued by the National Police Chiefs Council (for England):
college.police.uk
Note added 26th May: unfortunately the clear guidelines issued in April have been taken down and replaced by a more complex collection of documents.
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The fact that the government accepts the importance of exercise places a responsibility on us to exercise in a way that reduces our risk of becoming a clinical case rather than increasing our risk.

Here is a review of the factors that influence the relationship between exercise and function of the immune system
fetcheveryone.com/blog/13360/2020/3#blog403926
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