Mar 2020
6:36pm, 28 Mar 2020
34,547 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
And that copper has reiterated his (and presumably his colleagues' and his force's) interpretation of "ONE LOCAL RUN a day". The legislation might not say it, but if that's police interpretation, do you really want to be upsetting the police, at this difficult time?
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Mar 2020
7:02pm, 28 Mar 2020
1,967 posts
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um
[I have learnt and advocated that wherever someone has real authority (police, airport security etc) it's never worth arguing or being rude or disrespectful. Even if when convinced they're wrong, respond respectfully & politely, don't suggest or imply they're wrong, maybe explain your reasoning, but comply with whatever they say gracefully. Complain later if you want, but in any situation I've seen people try and tell them they're wrong, guess who comes off second best? Or severely disrupted? Not the official.
And they're not going to change what they're superiors have told them to do, just because you disagree.
They are doing a fairly thankless task - and as one colleague (US police & SWAT team) said, their primary focus is (1) we all get home safely (ie the police), then (2) we will enforce the law as we've been instructed. ]
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Mar 2020
10:09pm, 28 Mar 2020
2,071 posts
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Canute
Now that the regulations have been published we know the strict legal position (see sidebar on the right). I suppose we are unlikely to face prosecution unless we violate the letter of these regulations. It is nonetheless noteworthy that the regulations include the words 'without reasonable excuse'.
The wording of the regulations is different from BJ’s statement on 23rd March, which is a bit confusing.
Nonehteless, the overall body of government pronouncements in the past week makes the spirit underlying the regulations clear. We should leave the house as little as possible, and only with 'reasonable excuse'. When doing so, we must take stringent precautions to avoid contact with others.
However low the risk of contact with the virus might be during any run we might wish to do, if we are perceived to flout the spirit of the regulations we are likely to irritate our neighbours, waste police time, and generally damage community solidarity. There is little point in contrived arrangements to try to fit within the letter of the regulations. It is more important to temper a legalistic approach with good judgment and consideration for the community.
It might be that the concept of what is reasonable becomes more precisely defined over the next few days, but if there is doubt, it appears that one local run per day would be regarded as reasonable
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Mar 2020
1:11pm, 29 Mar 2020
34,548 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Today's govt guidance is 30 MINUTES RUN (or 60 mins wslk) per day.
I'll be surprised if all runners, even good Fetchies, are adhering to that?
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Mar 2020
1:14pm, 29 Mar 2020
44,959 posts
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Bintmcskint
Where is that guidance, HappyG(rrr)?
Is that new?
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Mar 2020
1:16pm, 29 Mar 2020
15,452 posts
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Rosehip
Whoever it was this morning answering a specific question said "60 mins walk or 30 minutes run would be appropriate for most people to keep up their usual exercise"
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Mar 2020
1:18pm, 29 Mar 2020
44,960 posts
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Bintmcskint
Found it. Michael Gove. BBC website.
"No mention is given to how long you can exercise for. But the Cabinet Office minister Michael Gove has advised: "I would have thought for most people a walk of up to an hour, a run of 30 minutes or a cycle ride of between that, depending on their level of fitness, is appropriate"
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Mar 2020
1:21pm, 29 Mar 2020
44,961 posts
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Bintmcskint
I am sticking to the once a day and local to home rule but, until that 30 mins becomes a strict rule, I have to admit I won't be adhering to the 30 minutes advice.
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Mar 2020
1:23pm, 29 Mar 2020
5,851 posts
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Sigh
Just read that too, thanks.
Great - so a throwaway comment by Gove will now be held in high regard and we'll be judged by it. Super.
Since he hasn't volunteered an opinion on how long to cycle for, that may be an option!
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Mar 2020
1:25pm, 29 Mar 2020
2,312 posts
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Tim of MK
I will do the same. One run a day in my local area, but not just for half-an-hour
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